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As some of you might already know from my former post on here, I found out that I had Hep.C a year ago, when my stomach filled up with fluids, [ascites] and my belly button ruptured from the large amount of fluids, which I was taken to the hospital, where they drained 7.2 liters of fluid out of my stomach, and put me on diuretics.
I had also become very weak and ended up in a wheel chair for some time.
After initial blood screening and CT scan, I was told that I had end-stage Hep.C and given 6 months or less to live. From that point I was referred to a Liver specialist who told me that I was too far in the 4th stage to be considered for the standard interferon treatments and the 6 months or less, was re-confirmed... that I should just go home to get my ducks in order. Nothing short of a liver-transplant would help.
Over the past year I've researched and have treated myself at home with herbs. to slow down the progression of the virus, and from a years worth of trial and error testing with herbal treatments, the most effective I've found to help control the virus is with a liver formula herbal blend called:Xiao Chai Hu San, which I made into the 00 sized capsules. This with other basic herbs like Milk Thistle etc. helped a lot, but though I've heard of those cases where Hep.C virus was healed with herbal methods, I've never been able to stop the virus with herbs, even with my best efforts to do so. This lead me to continue "Searching"...and lead me to run across the news about the MMS.

NOTE: I would also like to mentioned that after reading several of the post on here about MMS, I wanted to give the MMS a "True Testing" for myself, without any outside influences, so I stopped taking any herbs while taking the MMS, though I did continue taking supplements of Vitamin B-12,B-6 etc.but not within an hour of taking any MMS. My Goal was to let the MMS stand-alone upon it's own Merit. I'm not one that buys into or puts a lot of faith in blown-up advertisements or claims by others. Is MMS for real? And if so, just how good is it? And how effective is it without any help from outside sources like herbs or etc. taken along with it? I don't drink, and stick to a healthy diet. ~ So here's my results of finding the answers to these questions.

I ordered a bottle of MMS and after receiving it, I started taking it Mar.8th, 2010. But to not get ahead of myself here, here is my blood test results BEFORE and AFTER starting on MMS.

The results of my Liver panel blood test dated:
.......Feb.3rd, 2010.~ April 2nd,2010.
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ALT~{ SGPT } *85 ~*25 Normal Range: < 0 - 48 >
AST~{ SGOT } *54 ~*21 ............< 0 - 37 >
Alkaline Phos. *168 ~ *153 ..........< 20 - 136 >
Glucose ........*130 ~*107 ..............< 65 - 115 >
Anion Gap ......*9.0 ~*16.0 ..........< 10. - 20.>
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Note: I started the MMS [Mar.8th], with only 1 drop per day for the first few days, and then started to slowly ramp up to 10 drops once a day on Mar.17th. ~Then I started to take more doses per day on Mar.18th.
Mar.18th= 12; 8; and 10drop dose for a total of 3 doses that day.
Mar.19th= 10; 10; 8; 10 drop doses. [Got mild stomach upsets]
Mar.20th= 10; 10 drop doses. Figured out that I needed a different juice
Mar.21st= 7; 7; 7;drop doses Started taking it with 100%pure Prune Juice
Mar.22nd= 7;7;7;7;3;3;7 drops. Read that more doses works better.
Mar.23rd= 9;9;9;9;9;drops. Being aggressive with hammering the virus!
Mar.24th= 7;7;7;7;7,drops. The ole' stomach upsets again..dropping back.
Mar.25th= 5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5;5,drops. Hammering every hr. all day long!!
Mar.26th=5;5;5;10;5;5;10;10;8,drops. Being aggressive again!
Mar.27th=5;5;7;7;7;10;5,drops Feeling my oats and getting outdoors more
Mar.28th=5;8;5;6;5;5;5;5,drops. Having mild "D" every morning but okay.
Mar.29th=5;5;5;6;5;6;5,drops. Losing energy, toxic build up..
Mar.30th=5;5;5;5;5;7;5;5;5, ~Ignoring side effects, Enough of this Virus!
Mar.31st=3;3;5;4;5;4;3;4.~Had 2 big "D" dumps this morning! feeling sick.
Apr.1st=5;3;4;3;3;4, Spacing does out every couple hrs. or so now..
Apr.2nd=5;3;4;4;3;3.Had BLOOD TEST 2 hrs.after 1st dose this morning.
Apr.3rd=3;3;3;3;3;3;5;5, Planning to continue with lower doses....
Apr.4th=3;3;3;3;4. Will continue taking moderate doses like this now for another few months, so as to pick up any hidden viruses in lymph nodes, tissue, or tooth fillings.
*sleeping much better than before, better appetite too. Now that my blood test is established...I'm going back on some herbs to help clear out the toxin and to stiffen up my immune system too. Will see how that goes with my next blood test in May.
The above Blood Test stands on it's own merits and needs no further proof as far as I'm concerned, simply because I've "NEVER" seen such a Normal reading with any of my blood-test over the past year, as I have with the MMS. And in such a short period of time too.
---It's the REAL DEAL VIRAL KILLER ~ No doubt about it---

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Hobo, I am sooooo happy for you!
Wait until someone that has HEP C or any other non treatable disease reads your post. You are an inspiration to all of us.
Your post is well detailed- excellent!
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Congratulations on your great results hobo, good for you! Thanks for sharing your success story, looks like you could be a potential contributor to this film.

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Thank you for your kind comments, and anyone is free to use my post for sharing it with any forums too, My Special Thanks is too Jim Humble for making the MMS a reality in this world.
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Hobo, this is just fantastic! I am so glad for you and for all the people your test will lead back into health! I am going to put this on healthsalon.

You said that you plan to continue on mms and I assume that you will continue with blood tests as time goes by. I would advise you to maintain diligence over the years. Of course we hope that mms will fully knock this out but virus are funny creatures and have a way of hanging out. So, just keep up the good work. I hope you can come back to us in 5 years to tell us all continues to be well.

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wow, I am very happy for you.

I went to see my physician last Thursday for my quarterly blood tests for HIV. I will post my results when I get them. I don't know of anyone on the planet who has actually listed their pre and post MMS results on the internet. If I am wrong let me know the source.

Instead of buying my third bottle of MMS1 and Citric acid, I decided to make my own by buying the MMS powder off the net and buying the citric acid from the health food store.

I have been on MMS1 since mid September 2009. Not always consistent with the dosages; some days more; days less depending on my work schedule. I have taken MMS2 faithfully 4x every day since from March 2-28, 2010.

I didn't tell my doctor that I was using MMS. I am not sure if the standard blood checks for the antibodies versus checks for the virus. I may always have the antibodies. Currently the test say that I am below detectible levels while I am on the medications. That doesn't mean the virus is not there just that it is below the threshold.
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Yea.. I totally agree with you, the virus does hang around awhile, [or hide-out as I call it], From what I've read about it anyway. Excellent advise Arrowwind. Thanks!

With the HIV, that's great that you have undetectable, but the question popped into my mind, "If MMS is the most powerful viral killer known to mankind, why is their a need for a prescription medication?" Just curious, okay?
I totally understand what you mean with getting busy, I know that when I go somewhere for a few hours, I'll take the MMS with me in a small [lunch box] type ice chest, and a thermoses bottle of cold prune juice.

So taking a dose while traveling or etc, is made ease to stop in a parking lot or sit down somewhere, and in a few minutes, the "break" is over and I'll continue on again, or I'll get my dose in before going into a store or whatever.

I've found that with the Prune Juice, I only take about 1/5 of a glass for the 3 drop activated mix, [1/4 glass with 5 drops], opposed to having to take 1/2 glass of cranberry or apple-juice to mask the taste.

Any thoughts as to what a daily maintenance dose should be for longer term?
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I have been on MMS1 since mid September 2009. Not always consistent with the dosages; some days more; days less depending on my work schedule. I have taken MMS2 faithfully 4x every day since from March 2-28, 2010.

I didn't tell my doctor that I was using MMS. I am not sure if the standard blood checks for the antibodies versus checks for the virus. I may always have the antibodies. Currently the test say that I am below detectible levels while I am on the medications. That doesn't mean the virus is not there just that it is below the threshold.
Doug, I knew a young man who used mms for HIV and when he told his doctor she flipped her lid! I do not recommend it until you are convinced you have a good arguement for yourself to proceed, if you decide to share the info at all, that is. Unfortunatley I don't have contact with this young man any longer. His lab results looked very promising after using mms. He grew weary of the high mms dosages that were used at the time though, always feels nausea. I hope he is aware of the new protocol and the mms2 that Jim Humble seems to think is a great improvement
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Prior to the new protocol I would get a small plastic cup from the water cooler and place up to 10 drops 1:1 ratio. Unfortunately, it is hard to disguise that lovely odor for three minutes even when I placed it in the cabinet drawer. One co-worker referred to the smell as a burning electrical outlet and wanted to call the building supervisor. Working so close to people and always in meaningless meetings was disruptive to my schedule. I don't have a standard schedule when dealing with the people and management. Now I understand from Humble's MMS2 blog that you don't that to wait for 3 minutes if you are using 1:1 (citric acid), but only 20 seconds. which makes sense to me. my freshly made solutions turn dark brown almost immediately. I will resume today after a five day break on MMS1 and MMS2.

While taking the MMS1, I do notice a spring in my step. I don't care for the diarrhea but at least I rarely get nauseous.

I agree Arrowwind, I am aware how some physician's may raise eyebrows. I am awaiting for definitive tests.

In response to Hobo's question regarding taking med's while using MMS, my theory was that taking the med's brought me to non-detectible (not curative) levels. So if the viral load is that low, why not add MMS1 and MMS2 to augment the fight? Since I never spoken to anyone or seen any written doc's with before and after HIV results, I wasn't willing to allow my prior results (which were great) to be at risk. I am a definitely one of those "show me, prove me wrong" kind of guys.
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Hello Doug, Could you please help me understand a little more about the mms turning brown? Mine will just turn mild yellow after 3 minutes of being mixed with citric acid, Would this mean that mine is a weak solution that I bought? I got it from a guy that makes it and sells it for about $14. I don't know too much about the mms2, it sounds easier to take, in the capsule form, but I was wondering if it would be harder on the stomach linings too? Which is a concern of mine since I"ve spent about a year now taking a truck load of different herbs and a wheelborrow full of capsule hulls!! Am taking enzimes and biotics to try to help stuff too.
Really appreciate your help & experience with this, okay?
Thank you!!
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I drink 24-26 ounces of filtered water with every dose of MMS2 4 times a day. I never had any significant problems. If I don't drink enough water, I will get a serious chlorine tasting burb. I try to space the MMS1 30 minutes before or after taking MMS2 to avoid any indigestion or cramping. Also, I have eaten and taken my medications at the same time with the MMS2. Perhaps, I misspoke, my MMS1 solution is yellow-brown if only 3 drops. Gets darker if I go up to 6 drops or more. I made my citric acid in the following manner: 1.5 ounces citric acid and 1.5 ounces of distilled water to get a 50% solution. I haven't received my tests yet to know whether or not MMS2 has been a benefit or not. I don't see where it will adversely affect your herbs. If your stomach is sensitive, I would eat a small meal and then take MMS2 with 24-36 ounces of water. To my (limited) knowledge, MMS doesn't destroy the good bacteria or enzymes that are in the pH range of 7-14. So I would continue with the vitamins, probiotics and enzymes.

Personally, I thought taking MMS1 was much more challenging to my lifestyle and stomach lining. As such, I tend to be more compliant with MMS2.
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@ Hobo:
This is a testimony from a person that changed their diet and was cured of Heptaitist C. There are seven other similar testimonies regarding Hep C on the site. Here is the link: https://www.hacres.com/library/testimonies/my-thanks/318

... the Hallelujah Diet saved his life...

Testimonial #318

Twenty-five years ago my husband received fourteen pints of bad blood.
He has had numerous problems through the years, but his problems culminated three years ago when he was diagnosed with hepatitis C, along with cirrhosis of the liver. His body had swelled to the point that he looked like he was about eight months pregnant, and was dying.

I am happy to report that the Hallelujah Diet saved his life, and because of his diet change was able to return to the mission field in Costa Rica a year ago.

The doctors are shocked.

Most of his family is still shocked, that he is still alive and well.
He is now 63 years old and back serving the Lord as a full-time missionary. The Hallelujah Diet is a miracle from God because it is the truth from God's Word.
God bless your ministry always!
Testimonies on the Hallelujah Acres website have been submitted voluntarily without promise of compensation or publication. Claims expressed are solely those of the individual; these claims have not been verified, nor are they intended to represent typical results of making a diet change.
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Wow Doug, What a great post!! I was just going to take a minute to take a quick peak at that weblink..and it was so interesting that I've spent the last two hours reading all about the diet info. there.. great food for thought. And thank you for sharing that!!
I've posted back and forth with a fellow on another forum, and he's really into juicing veggies and blending of foods and saying that both of his parents had HepC some time ago, and he healed them both with his receipt methods. I believe there is more truth behind much of this than "meats" the eye! :-}
Thank you for the information about the MMS2 and 1, I'd probably have problems with drinking that much water with the 2 though since I still have an ascites problem, I don't know for sure, but I'm thinking that the MMS that I bought might be a little weaker solution than what you are using, as mine only turns a light yellow on 3 drops after 3 minutes. Even a 10 or 12 drop dose still is just yellow, never seen it turn brownish at all..
Perhaps the water that it's made with has something to do with it too, as I know that you're suppose to use distilled water, so wondering that maybe the guy that made it just used store bought bottled water. [Which is noting but tap water run through a filtering machine to be sold as bottled water.] Most of the water filters on the market filters 99% of organic materials out of the water..but that's deceptive, as those filters do not filter out the chemical additives to tap water, nor such negative charged water that's created when the water is run through copper or galvanized pipping. These of course are pollution to the body. There are decent filter that can be ordered though, which are GP rated to be less than .005 microns.. which are like those military high filtration devices. They cost around $25. per filter though.
I know that Dr. Clark recommends using double distilled water to make certain products with, as the first run of distillation still doesn't get all the chemicals out of the tap water used.
I know the MMS is quiet a water purification in itself, ...just not sure if other chemicals in water would have much effect on the outcome of mixing it. Any thoughts?
I just got in a shipment of the MMS1 flakes in a 1 lb jar and also a pound of the C.acid powder.. ordered it with 24 of the 4 oz. dropper pet bottles from the same place for, shipping charges and everything came to $47. [from e-bay] Anyway, I'm holding off from making any of it up until I can learn more about these things like why one batch will turn brownish in color and another just turns yellow... Guess it's in the strength of the mix..
Do you know if there's every been any change in preparation instructions?
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Hobo:

I didn't mean to imply that what you have purchased is weaker or ineffectual. Obviously, with your recent lab tests, you are getting great results. That being said, here are my lab results.

I just spoke with my physician and he mentioned that the ALL viruses remain in your body forever at various levels. If the levels are low enough, you will not experience the symptoms associated with that virus (e.g: cold viruses). The typical HIV tests will reveal your CD4 counts and whether or not your viral load is greater than 48 viral copies/ ddl. If less than 48 copies per dll, then it is considered "nondetectable". The final item is that the normal ranges for CD4 counts are from 379 to 1885. That being said, counts can flucuate +/- 200 easily depending on the time of day, the testing lab used, diet, etc.

ok, so here are my results which quite frankly won't tell you anything definitive. I have been on MMS1 since late September 2009. Started MMS2 since April 2, 2010

July CD4 683 viral load nondetectable
Dec CD4 699 viral load nondetectable
April 2010 CD4 529 viral load nondetectable

I am not concern about the CD4 count because I knew I was eating crappy lately although it would have been nice to see a significant jump. I had a big piece of Las Vegas Cheese cake the night before at the Mirage Casino eventhough I know sugar is very bad for your immune system for 8 hours.

Bottomline: For those that say that they have been cured of HIV/AIDS; I would like to see the documents myself. None of this hearsay stuff. The only other way I could test this is by having a HIV test done anonymously in a different city to see if it comes back positive.

Now I have to get my immune system stronger to increase my CD4 counts. any ideas?

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Thanks Doug for sharing your test results, it looks like you are doing great!
I'm not really sure how that works, or the CD4, but it sure looks great anyway! I wish there was some way that we could scan our blood test and post it, as that sure would be better than trying to get all the lines to line up in typing all the items on a blood test.
A comprehensive blood test shows a great deal...sort of like a road map of what's going on inside.
You asked about something to build up the immune, I was just wondering that myself recently so had to hit the ole' books to brush up on that, The Immune Stimulants basically remove the "immune blocks", and are Hydrangea Root, Methyl Sulfony1 methane, [MSM], Papain, and Bromelain. But there are other considerations that goes along with your immune system too, such as What is your oxygen level while sitting down, quiet and calm? Is it above 95 or 96%? If you are reading in the low 90% while laying around, then you'd look into you're hemoglobin levels to see why your lungs 02 to plasma exchange isn't functioning normal.. The blood flow circulation goes in a cycle, the blood being filtered through the liver and spleen then dumping off the waste from the blood into the bowls, and on the return trip the plasma picks up a new oxygen supply to transport energy etc. to all the cells, exchanging to pick up cell waste etc. again, and recycling goes on.. a disruption to this basic cycle shows up as a loss of energy, the plasma can't take on as much oxygen if it's still over loaded with waste that it could not process or eliminate...etc. etc. So you could take herbs to boost the immune...but that really might not be the problem...see what I'm getting at? It could be due also to your Albumin to Globulin ratio being too far out of balance, which could be caused by the 03 from doses, without a balance of the globulin being properly exchanged with your 02 exchange through your lungs.
I'm not saying that you have a problem with any of these, just some things to look at if you feel that you're immune isn't boosting as well as it should. okay?
If I might suggest a more of a combined coverage, that would include an alternative is both a great detoxifier, immune support and waste cleaner/mover too, all in one herb. Wheatgrass.. it contains over 104 minerals and vitamins, everything that the body needs to maintain a health balance, with the exception of carotene. It comes in little green tablets and 7 tablets is equivalent to a full helping of green veggies. 20 tablets a day is recommended.. But I'd say 30 tabs. over the course of a day until you're doing the "On Top of the World Dance again". Just my 2 cents anyway.
I can also send you some red reshie, [on the house of course :-} L-Glutamine is another good one that is a building block for increased proteins,....and the list goes on and on...
I was just looking back over everything here, and there is so much more that could be explained but hope this will suffice for now.
P.S. You're killing me with that news of you pigging out on the Las Vegas Cheese cake.. That sounds soooo good!!! :-}
Oh... I wanted to ask you a question, if you know, I read on another forum that if a person with Hep.C is in their 4th stage with symptoms such as mine, ascities etc. that the liver is so damaged already that it can not repair or regenerate itself, even if the virus was wiped out.
I didn't like the sound of that at all.. ~ I mean it's the "hope" of becoming well again, that's kept me fighting all this time... and if their is no 'hope', then what's the sense? Is that poster right about my liver not being able to regenerate or healing itself out of the 4th stage failure? I'm just really confused about this now.
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