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I have great faith I will be cure of both diseases Have a great day! Geraldine
That's great Geraldine! What I especially liked is your "positive attitude", this is one method of treatment that is far more powerful than pills or capsules that we shove into us to treat various things.. The truth of this is such a low consideration when dealing with the material world though..
"As a "person" thinketh, so are they" Okay...end of bible thumping!

If we take time to set aside all the names and labels for detailed items, such as individual herbs, prescriptions, and all the variety of "effects", and take a simple approach look at the "causes"... you'll find that such things as your goiter, hepc, & etc.. are just the body not working properly.

What does the perfect body need?
"Oxygen" is vital...There are dozens of ways to increase the oxygen into the body...many herbal actions are basically to stimulate the uptake of oxygen..
Nutrition,~you'll find many of the veggies actions to work for this same purpose..
MMS~still the same basic input of 02 and 03,...Ozone the same.
And raising the bodies electrical vibrations, stimulates the same basic processes of renewing the body's oxygen uptake...
Exercise~no different..
Such things as diseases, goiters, electrical systems within the body, and some of the body crippling, both physcially and mentally, comes from the basic effects from the need for oxygen. Long term effects etc...

People who live in or near very large cities often suffer more health problems than those who lives in less populated areas... due to the oxygen levels being less than 10% around polluted areas.
From oxygen, this leads into the effects and activation of sulfates found in our atmosphere and the different locations on the globe which suffers the most, where is found the highest fatality rates of diseases, I could go on and on about so many details about this, but I think you'll get the grand picture of what I'm referring to..
As they say ~ Sometimes we have to take a step back from the tree's to see the forest..
Anyway.... got to run to town right now... but just wanted to give you three cheers for what a great attitude you have, thanks for being such an inspiration!! BO
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Geraldine:

Very happy for you. Were you aware that Humble believes MMS2 will cure cancers based on his observations? I imagine it could prevent it as well with 1-4 capsules daily? I will recommend this to a friend who has a rare skin cancer.
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Hello Doug, Here's something that you asked about before, to give the immune a kick..
Actually, it's my wifes invention based on some things she's been working on in the kitchen for me, and then I've added a couple supportive items that came out better than the first batch we've tried...
We Call it: "Pop-eye Stew"
In a large crock pot, put 4 to 5 bone morrow slices in 1 qt. filtered water to cook for 2 hrs. then pull the tender meat-morrow from the centers of the bone slices and give the dog the bones...leaving the water and meat in crock pot.
[Let the butcher know that you need a bag of large bone morrow slices cut into 1 in. slices, to cook into home made stew. Most food stores with meat departments are helpful to help a customer with special need like this.]
Put black beans, lintels, and black eyed peas into crock pot with the meat and filtered water.
Chop up 1/2 bunch of green onions, [with stems] and add 2 red or white medium sized potatoes, [never use Russets]; 3 carrots; & 1/2 cup green peas.
For "Seasoning", use 1/2 teaspoon "no-salt substitute"; in an 8 oz. glass of filtered water stir/mix 2 tablespoons mesa flour and pour into pot. Also add 1/4 teaspoon cayenne pepper; and 1/4 teaspoon ginger powder.
Stir it all up, keep lid on and cook until veggies and beans are tender, [approx. 3 to 4 hrs.] Let cool and store in fridge until next day, reheat supper from the stored amount. After your pop eye stew is reheated, sprinkle about 1/4 teaspoon of Alanine white powder in each soup bowl full and stir it in..
[Alanine is tasteless but sure give your bowl of stew that extra "kick."
Sprinkle additional "no salt" to suit your taste, but it should come out perfect with this receipt. Enjoy!!

In addition to the above, here is a few basic herbs that are good for boosting the immune system.

Wheatgrass... this is "not" just another supplement, it is the most powerful that I know or have ever worked with that supports your hemoglobin, uptake of energy to cell growth, stops and/or retards the growth of anaerobic micro-organisms, cleans up cancer infections by oxygenating the cancer cells, will powerfully heal up even bleeding stomach ulcers in a matter of 6 weeks, and likewise, will make exterior skin ulcers, sores and general rash problems disappear over the same 6 weeks period of time, [at a 30 tablets, over 12 hrs per day] It cleans up toxins of liver, kidneys and spleen, also restores flora and cleans colon. It contains over 104 natural minerals and vitamins.

Mexican Sarsaparilla root, used to beef up ones immune system, If sexual energy is stimulated, one needs to reduce dose somewhat. Was the primary herb used to treat the 1494 epidemic of syphilis that swept Europe, that killed thousands, rather like the AIDS epidemic today. Nicholas Culpeper, wrote in the 17th century, " If the juice of these berries be given to a new born child, it shall never be hurt by poison." In the 19th century, Britain imported approx. 150,000 pounds per year for the treatments of syphilis.

Phyllanthus Amarus/Nurina, for any kind of blockages, plugged livers, kidneys, spleen etc. It's nic name is called the "stone breaker", and it naturally works to clear out stones in the body. 3 cups of this herb, with 1/2 cup Bupleurum root and 1/2 cup of White Peony root prepared for 1 gal. of tea makes potent viral controller; clears blockages; and protects lower GI track all within one treatment when taken 6oz. 4 times per day.

Vitamin C, E, and D are essential to anyone who is or has suffered with health issues. So is the vitamin B complex's. [also multiple vita.] Iron is essential too, however should not exceed 50 to 60 mg. per day at most..and less if there are already liver problems. But again, this is getting into the 'prescription' sort of man made products and not wholly natural,...

Camu-Camu herb. from the rain forest line of herbs, contains 40 times the vitamin C of an orange. With MMS, I take 1,000mg. of camu-camu first thing in moring and just before I go to bed with my vita.E and last dose of wheatgrass.

Red Reshie made into the 00 sized capsules, 1 X 3 per day. Have to be careful to not take too much of this though, as it ramps up your inferons and can cause liver to swell with Hepititis cases.

Mixing 1 part Alanine to 2 parts L-Glutamine makes a potent immune booster too. Even 1,000mg. of L-glutamine taken alone, is strong for the building blocks for increased protien that the body needs. In addition it also works to bring down the ALT within normal ranges, especially when taken with 1,000mg. of dandelion root.

Astragalus in a well known and "excellent immune builder" when approx "10 to 15 gram per day" of the root slices, is bloiled and taken, [3 or 4 cups of it over the course of a day] as a hot tea drink.
Another method and use is:
It will also open those little lung sac's for better breathing, stopping coughs, within "minutes" of taking/stirred into a teaspoon of honey and peanut butter, then rolled into small bird egg size balls. putting 1,000mg. per ball mix. The magic-mix of a herbalist with those on oxygen or with chronic cough.

To prevent the body from toxic build up, which makes one feel sluggish, and can bring on headaches, and insomnia. Look for the "Ornithine" capsules, and take 1,000mg Licorice root per day [with the ornithine] to bring mental clarity and balance back to the body again. [Licorice should not be take more than 10 days straight though, without allowing a 2 to 3 day rest from it use. But again, the wheatgrass at 30 tabs per day should be all that one would need to keep the toxins moved out and over all system balanced.

Cat Claw is a wicked type of herb to ever try to make into a tea, but with any fight against viral diseases, 1,000mg. taken 3 times a day in capsules is quiet supportive to one's defenses and immune protection.

Asian Ginseng, [Siberian isn't really a true ginseng], taken with mushroom combo's is another good "kick" to boost immune and energy.

NAC [ N-Acetyl-Cystenine ] is a good "mop-up" for toxins too.

I know that there are a lot of others, but these cover quit a lot of thread here, but I think would be a good reference to all too.

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Hobo:

wow, that is a lot of information. I really appreciate this. I will print this out and head to the herbalist. Again, thanks.
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Glad to be of some help, Doug. When you started MMS several months ago, did you have a viral load then? If so, was it the MMS that did the job for you, or did you start it to maintain? Just curious... BO
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Just got my viral load test results back, from my last test @ 721,000. my viral load dropped approx. 60% to 307,000.

Actually, I was kind of expecting even a much lower count because of just the way I've been feeling, but at least I know that there is no question in my mind anymore about how MMS will effect the viral loads!!
And that was just from "less than a month" on the MMS protocol...

I've also done another liver test and there's been some rise back with my ALT, AST and Ala.Phos. levels, talked with the doc. about this and it appears that I need to do a better job of getting the toxins cleaner out.. BO
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My viral was been "thankfully" undetectable for several years prior and during MMS. I was expecting a dramatic rise in TCells because I assumed less HIV viral activity would translate into less affected white cells.

I was very compliant with MMS2 in that I took the pills 4X daily faithfully. Not as discipline with MMS1 which I took everyday but found it too difficult to take 3 drops every hour for 8 hours and be active. After watching Humbles video that ArrowWind shared a few days ago, I discovered that MMS2 was used for cancers and given to people HIV with cancers. So I may consider trying the MMS1 only for the next 4 weeks at 8 x per day. I will suggest MMS2 to a friend with a rare skin cancer.

Prior to MMS, my cell counts were higher when I was exercising regularly, eating activa yogurt, and tried the Lemon-aide diet (one week prior) to HIV test in July).

I know you mentioned wheatgrass. I am using a product called BarleyMax which according to testimonies on www.hacres.com website was helpful resolving many diseases including Ulcers.
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Just got my viral load test results back, from my last test @ 721,000. my viral load dropped approx. 60% to 307,000.

Actually, I was kind of expecting even a much lower count because of just the way I've been feeling, but at least I know that there is no question in my mind anymore about how MMS will effect the viral loads!!
And that was just from "less than a month" on the MMS protocol...

I've also done another liver test and there's been some rise back with my ALT, AST and Ala.Phos. levels, talked with the doc. about this and it appears that I need to do a better job of getting the toxins cleaner out.. BO
That's great news about your viral load. Strange about your ALT & AST's though. I just went to get my blood work done yesterday and I should know by Monday, the 19th. I don't even know what my Viral load was or even if my old doc had them ordered back then. I'm going to ask this doctor though if I can get it done. It has to get sent to Vancouver though, so it will take some time for that. Have a good weekend! Geraldine
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If you are having a hard time detoxing things the thing I would recommend to facilitate detox is magneium. Most people are deficient, something like 70 percent, and deficiency spirals into further deficiency due to the way things cascade in the body.

Magnesium has a LOT to do with cell permeability, the movement of calcium across the cell wall, (which it needs to do) and the movement of toxins and heavy metals out of the body. I strongly recommend the book Transdermal Magnesium Therapy by Dr Mark Sircus. Oral dosages need to be quite high and a loose stool should be expected. High oral dosages can be mitigated by topical applications of Magnesium oil topically daily, after shower and periodic baths with it or epsom salts or mixed. This book is heavily reference, quite nice.

And then there is NAC, wasn't that talked about on this thread before? Are your dosages sufficient?
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Be aware that sometimes when people do follow up blood work for HIV that some times the T Cells go way down and that freaks them out.

But if they hang on the T cells come back up cause what is happening is that the MMS kills off the damaged or sick T cells. It, from there, takes time to regenerate.. Some people don't notice where others do, this but I think it has to do with the timing of their blood work....ArrowWind09

ArrowWind09:

I would like to know where I can read more about your comment. I was under the impression that the viral load test is for the infected T cells and the CD4 count is for the healthy T-Cells. The CD4 numbers increase or decrease based on several factors: what time the blood was drawn, if the same lab and technician is used, activities of the donor prior to blood being drawn (exercising, nutrition, stress level, attitude, etc). infections (having a cold, etc), and so forth. Everyone's T cells go up and down every day. Mine have been in the +/- of 150 for over two years while being non-detectable.

MMS is said to remove bacteria, virus, protozoans, parasites, etc and shouldn't have any affect red or white blood cells. If anything one would assume that the less virus attacking the healthy cells, then the numbers should dramatically go up.

Just my humble opinion
I am going to try to address this issue. Lets get some definitions to work with and I will use these websites for basic instruction.

What is a viral load test?:https://www.labtestsonline.org/understanding/analytes/viral_load/test.html
What does the test result mean?

HIV viral load tests are reported as the number of HIV copies in a milliliter (copies/mL) of blood. If the viral load measurement is high, it indicates that HIV is reproducing and that the disease will likely progress faster than if the viral load is low. During treatment and monitoring, a high viral load can be anywhere from 5,000 to 10,000 copies/mL. Initial, untreated, and uncontrolled HIV viral loads can range as high as one million or more copies/mL. A low viral load is usually between 40 to 500 copies/mL, depending on the type of test used. This result indicates that HIV is not actively reproducing and that the risk of disease progression is low. A viral load result that reads “undetectable” does not mean that you are cured. It may mean that either the HIV RNA is not present in your blood at the time of testing or that the level of HIV RNA is below the threshold needed for detection. Even though HIV may be undetectable in the blood, it persists in cells and tissues throughout the body as “HIV provirus.” HIV provirus refers to virus that has moved into cells and into the nucleus, where it has become integrated with the DNA of the host cell. This is also call “HIV proviral DNA.”

and regarding T cell count:
https://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/e...cle/003516.htm

T cells are a type of white blood cells (lymphocytes). They make up part of the immune system. T cells help the body fight diseases or harmful substances.
A test can be done to measure the number of T cells in your blood.

and the following:
https://www.naturalstandard.com/index...4cellcount.asp
HIV can infect and kill many different types of cells in the body, but the primary targets are immune cells called CD4 T-cells. The CD4 T-cells are a type of T-lymphocyte (white blood cells) that helps coordinate the immune system's response to infection and disease. These cells express a molecule called CD4 on their surfaces, which allow them to detect foreign substances, including viruses that enter the body. HIV binds to the receptors on CD4 cells and enters the white blood cell. Once inside the cell, HIV begins replicating.


So in light of the above definitions, MMS may kill CD4 T cells that are infected with the virus. In your lab work this count may go radically down which will alarm your doctor and he will alarm you. But with continued use of mms new healthy cells will be created and the T cell count will go up. This has been demonstrated by mms users and this whole up and down in the numbers can be missed if you do not have your blood checked at the right time during mms therapy.... or just the up side may be seen as t cells going up or just the down side seen as in t cells going down when mms destroys the infected cells, all depending on when you just happen to have your blood checked.

Now this is my theory as well as with some others who have been treating their HIV with mms. We are not researchers but this is how I see it.
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........ that you simply might be suffering from the side effects of decreasing your natural intestinal mucosa, and flora actions, that you would indeed suffer from the lack of fatigue, lowered immune responses and less regenerative abilities?
Hobo, I feel that I need to challenge this statement because so many people read this board and it could lead to misunderstanding and even fear in using mms.

Due to the excellent results that people with crohn's disease and irritable bowel disorders get from the use of MMS this statement could not possibly be true.

Crohn's disease is the ultimate in bowel degeneration disease. It leads to death through the wasting of the lining of the bowel with significant pain and bloody diarrhea. The mucosa is already severely damaged. MMS is saving this lives of these people and their bowels are healing even when mms isused in the high dosages of 15 drops three times a day. So how is it that MMS could decrease the natural mucosa of the bowel yet heal these people? These people regenerate with the use of mms. The statement does not hold up to empirical evidence.

I have heard of no stories of resultant bowel mucosa degenertion with the use of mms and I have been watching this closely now for a 2.5 years. Some people even administer it directly to the bowel with enema in cases of colon cancer. The diarrhea it causes is transient. Many people use high doses of mms with no bowel symptoms at all.

I have seen no reason to beleive that mms degenerates the flora of the bowel either. If it did people would be left with long standing candida infection or other bowel dyscrasia from its use. Its just not happening.

Anytime transient diarrhea occurs good flora can be lost to increased water and dumping. It is wise to replenish bowel flora, but I and many others did not bother to do so. It comes back when you eat a healthy diet. Some people have had significant improvement of candida infection.

In general, oxidative therapies regenerate bowel tissue though a variety of mechinisms. This is also true for ozone therapy, and H2O2 therapy when done correctly. I can't wait to understand exactly what mms does besides kill pathogens. I am sure there is more going on than that. Eventually someone with enough bucks in their pockets will do studies. Until then we have to consider the clinical evidience carefully.
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P.S. I do appreciate all your advise on the use of wheatgrass and other modalites. Wheatgrass is an ultimate cleanser that is too often overlooked. You have done a lot of homework. BTW, you can get it all prepared for you at Jama Juice if you happen to live near one. They make it daily and even on the spot if you request it.
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