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[QUOTE=Geraldine;30770]Well, Here it goes, I'm trying the MMS for my Hep C, geno type 1b.
~ On March 29th, we got up to 15 dr. X2/day. The next day, it was a real good thing I was home again for the day, 7 times I went running to the bathroom before supper time. ~

* Less dosage more often might help...........................
*The body has a mind of it's own.. so to speak.. When it is being overloaded to the max. it will signal "dump it quick"... That's bowl~talk for move it on out Slick!

~Big warm welcome to you and your husband, and I'm sure you'll like your blood results come mid April...
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Have you looked into MMS2? Jim Humble says it really makes a difference in the treatment of HIV and people get better results when they use the mms1 and mms2 together. So of course it makes me wonder why not for hep c too? You can go to his site and see what you think.
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I've read that on Jim Humbles site about the better results using them together etc.. but I'm not sure if it would be a good route for me to go, since the ascities is a consideration too, so have to watch the total liquid intake, I understand that you have to chase it with a glass of water or juice, so if I took 5 or 6 a day, that's half a gallon of fluid right there, not to mention another gallon a day with other drinks, such a prune juice with MMS1, protien drinks, drinks with meals etc. I'd be a floating beach ball in no time! :-} I try to stay within 1/2 to 3/4 gallon a day.. It would be nice to do capsules though.....it does get to be a pain at times to stop what I'm doing to drag everything out of the fridge to do another dose several times a day...
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I would think that even one capsule a day might be helpful, if you drink one glass of water, but I see what you are saying.
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I would think that even one capsule a day might be helpful, if you drink one glass of water, but I see what you are saying.
I was thinking that maybe taking some of the MMS2 is better than not any, do you know of any sources where I can order a small quantity of it?
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I have yet to experiment with mms2. I think there are threads here that tell all about how to get it and I will look around. What I do remember is that most people get it from a pool supply store. It is a basic chemical that they use for water purification. It is granular or powder and you load your own caps.
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Ah... here's the link:
https://www.natmedtalk.com/mms-miracl...rous-acid.html
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I appreciate your thoughful advice. I will go to a Chinese herbalist and see what he suggests.

Jim H. indicated that taking dosages more than 3 drops were not more effective; so he suggests that you don't use the older protocols. In pharmacology, the scientists do a test called the L50 dosing which means that they will pump drugs into your blood to see at which levels the medication is or isn't effective for certain diseases. I guess a L50 test was not done on MMS1. So I am staying with the 3 drops 8x per day regiment. Of course, you decide what is best for you based on your own experiences and opinion.

I am considering going to an out of town clinic and tell them that I may have been exposed but don't have the virus and see what they say. The western blot test does indicate whether or not a virus is present. I have heard people say that the drugs cause HIV/AIDS. Not so sure I agree. Well how do you explain that to people who never took any medication and discovered one day that the virus was present? Just a thought.

I am not disputing what people say MMS does for them. I certainly wish everyone a quick and robust recovery as well as a healing within their own spiritual place.

I will share one more experience. Five months after starting MMS1 I had to go to the eye doctor to get my prescription reduced because for the first time in my life my vision had improved. The first time is 20 years. I don't know if it was the MMS or not, but that is the only item that was different in my daily regiment.

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Hi Geraline and welcome to the forum.

We will be looking forward to hearing your test results!

Meanwhile take a look at Hobo's protocol for taking mms on the first page of this thread. Jim Humble's put out a new protocol and it makes it much easier for some folks to take 5 drops every 2 hours than 15 drops 2x day. You might want to give that a try.

I have a friend who does not have hep c but elevated enzymes from fatty liver from many years of drinking. vodka. She changed from vodka to wine in January and did mms. After about 4 weeks her enzymes were almost perfect. Now fatty liver does not go away in one month from just changing to wine. We are sure the mms had everything to do with it. She is feeling great.
Thanks, for the info, I will try this today, after Friday's hell day, I was feeling better crampy until late that night, could barely get off the couch, besides running to the bathroom !! Saturday,10th, I decided not to take any of it, just to feel a little better. Today, I'm feeling very good but I'm going back down and try the 5dr. x2 hr/day. There is one thing I notice, after been on MMS, that I lost my cravings for sweets, and I'm sleeping a little better too. Interesting hearing about your friend there too, hope she gets better too. Talk later! Thanks.....Geraldine
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I am considering going to an out of town clinic and tell them that I may have been exposed but don't have the virus and see what they say. The western blot test does indicate whether or not a virus is present. I have heard people say that the drugs cause HIV/AIDS. Not so sure I agree. Well how do you explain that to people who never took any medication and discovered one day that the virus was present? Just a thought.
~Drugs that cause HIV? Well...It's pretty far stretched, but anything possible..~
I'm not that familiar with the methods used to check for a virus, other than the viral load test, but understand that if it is showing very low, then there's an antibody test too... You're smart with the thoughts of going to another clinic to get tested... Due to discussions with family members who work within hospitals, there are lab results that can be manipulated by setting the range calibrations to reflect a graduation in counts or levels that the machine will show an output for..
If you suspect something isn't quiet right about your labs...run straight away and have a different lab test done by a smaller independent source.. just a suggestion..
I think in your case Doug, If your loads our in good shape, your 02 in the 90's and baseline vitamins are in normal ranges, then you might consider having your T-cells evaluated, since viruses are known to go after the DNA structure.
I'm really not up on this process a great deal, but I have heard of ones immune system needing T-cell regeneration to get it kick started again.
I hope this isn't the case, as the bone morrow sample test is quiet painful from what I've know of it.. I think I'd ask for an alternate method there!
If it's just as simple as taking a herbal helper to boost your immune system, I can suggest some receipts that's easy to make into a tea also, but I do think it's a good idea of knowing where the problem is coming from, to know "what method" to use... if ya know what I mean...
Don't know if any of the above is what might be the case, but you are certainly right... spiritual guidance is by far our first resolve and hope..
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Be aware that sometimes when people do follow up blood work for HIV that some times the T Cells go way down and that freaks them out.

But if they hang on the T cells come back up cause what is happening is that the MMS kills off the damaged or sick T cells. It, from there, takes time to regenerate.. Some people don't notice where others do, this but I think it has to do with the timing of their blood work.
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Be aware that sometimes when people do follow up blood work for HIV that some times the T Cells go way down and that freaks them out.

But if they hang on the T cells come back up cause what is happening is that the MMS kills off the damaged or sick T cells. It, from there, takes time to regenerate.. Some people don't notice where others do, this but I think it has to do with the timing of their blood work.
What do you mean with Timing of the blood work? Sounds most interesting!
Are you suggesting that there is a cyclic consideration, or that ones blood work results adheres to ones chemistry/monthly cycles?
Not quiet sure what you're referring to and would be most interested to listen to your views on this.
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What I mean is if sick T cells are taken out by mms and you get a low reading you need to go back and check again in maybe 5 or 6 weeks to see if they have picked up.

If you just find the low reading and do not pursue further you don't see that they pick up... If you did not check them when they were low but only after they regenerate you never realize that there was a dye off.
So timing is key.... at least this is what some people have reported to me.
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Be aware that sometimes when people do follow up blood work for HIV that some times the T Cells go way down and that freaks them out.

But if they hang on the T cells come back up cause what is happening is that the MMS kills off the damaged or sick T cells. It, from there, takes time to regenerate.. Some people don't notice where others do, this but I think it has to do with the timing of their blood work....ArrowWind09

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I would like to know where I can read more about your comment. I was under the impression that the viral load test is for the infected T cells and the CD4 count is for the healthy T-Cells. The CD4 numbers increase or decrease based on several factors: what time the blood was drawn, if the same lab and technician is used, activities of the donor prior to blood being drawn (exercising, nutrition, stress level, attitude, etc). infections (having a cold, etc), and so forth. Everyone's T cells go up and down every day. Mine have been in the +/- of 150 for over two years while being non-detectable.

MMS is said to remove bacteria, virus, protozoans, parasites, etc and shouldn't have any affect red or white blood cells. If anything one would assume that the less virus attacking the healthy cells, then the numbers should dramatically go up.

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I am staying away from using certain liver cleansing herbs such as Milk Thistle because it contraindicates with the HIV medication. I have limited my fruits, vegetables, and vitamins to early morning or late evening to avoid interactions with MMS1 and Vitamin C.

I was considering gluthathione, zinc, red clover, and herbs (any suggestions on herbs, Hobo?)

This was extracted from a website about how to improve T cells: https://www.ehow.com/how_5798244_incr...ell-count.html

T cells are a type of white blood cell that fight disease and infection. They are an important part of the immune system. Long term illnesses, chemotherapy, AIDS, poor nutrition and stress may all lead to a lower than normal T cell count. It is important to keep T cell count in the normal healthy range in order for the body to fight harmful intruders. There are things you can do to increase T cells in the body.



You'll Need:
  • Fruits and vegetables
  • Lean protein foods
  • Vitamin supplements
  • Green tea
  • Yogurt
  1. Step 1
    Eat a diet high in vegetables and fruits. Vegetables and fruits such as broccoli, spinach, green beans, oranges, apples and peaches contain vitamins that increase T cell counts.

  2. Step 2
    Eat lean protein sources such as eggs, beans and lean meats which helps build white blood cells. Eat less of high fat foods that suppress the immune system.

  3. Step 3
    Exercise at least 30 minutes a day. Walking, running and swimming boost energy levels and help produce T cells needed to increase immunity levels.

  4. Step 4
    Take a multi-vitamin. Most people do not receive the recommended daily allowance of vitamins and minerals from their diets so a supplement helps to achieve that deficit.

  5. Step 5
    Drink one to two cups of green tea a day. Green tea is high in antioxidants which help fight disease and infection within the body.
  6. Step 6
    Eat yogurt once a day. Yogurt contains good bacteria that help the digestive tract stay healthy and fight any bad bacteria that may enter.
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Well, Here it goes, I'm trying the MMS for my Hep C, geno type 1b.
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~Big warm welcome to you and your husband, and I'm sure you'll like your blood results come mid April...
>>>> Thanks! I sure felt great the next day, after that. I went to bed @ 9:30pm and slept till 9am the next day!! I didn't do any drops on the 10th, but I started the 5 dr X2 on Sunday. Monday, 5dr X3, Today, I will do more. I feel good too I have beeen reading some of the other blogs about Liver and HepC and I totally have faith this will work for me too. I also was told that I have a Goiter on my left side of my throat, back in the summer of 2005. The specialist wanted to put me on drugs, so it wouldn't grow any bigger, and that I might have to be on it for the rest of my life. I told him NO WAY!!. Now, I glad I didn't. I rub organic coconut Oil on my lump and have it in my diet, as well I do iodine drops for it too. My tests for that in the last few years have been normal. I also had an Ultra sound done last year and it hasn't grown. But honestly, it has been feeling smaller, so I really hoping that the MMS, will knock out this as well. My mother's mother, died from Thyroid/breast cancer in 1993, so I don't want to go down the same path! I have great faith I will be cure of both diseases Have a great day! Geraldine
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