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Old 05-18-2010, 09:37 PM
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Thanks for the reply Hobo

I think I will start doing like 5 drops four times a day and take a look at the link that was sent to me so I can change my diet.
Yea, know what you mean by hitting your limit around 11 drops, as when I first started I limited out at 12 drops twice too.. so I just stuck with the 5 to 8 drops per dose for a few weeks, but I was also doing between 5 to 8 doses per day too, and in less than a month, it dropped my viral loads down by 60% and put my ALT and AST levels well into the normal range.
The thing with HCV is that it can multiply rapidly within just a few hours time, that's why you really have to stay on top of hammering away at it to effectively overpower it.
You can try the 4 doses per day, but if you find that that is not driving down the viral loads or you find that you're just maintaining at that amount of daily doses, then you'll have to work it out so you can jump up to the 8 doses per day protocol for your HCV.
Currently, I'm just on 3 to 4 drops times 8 doses per day, sometimes I'll get in 10 doses in a day. But I try to get a dose in every hour if I can, even if I'm traveling or gone from home all day,
I take a small ice chest with me and my little -0-capsules to mix up a dose ~ drop it into the capsule and down it with a little juice...while sitting in the truck or I'll take 5 min. break and go back to my truck to get in another dose...
~ sounds like a lot to do...but after awhile it just becomes a routine and nothing to it..
I do know what you're going through right now....hopeful...but yet with some reservations..praying it won't be overly difficult as you probably have a full plate already... but when you "see" your lab results after hammering away at it, you'll feel the sun shining on you again! Just you wait and see!!

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Thank you, Kind2C for your link to Alkalizing foods. Really a huge help.
Kroger had blackberries for $1.00 a pack and I bought 4 packs. I do so
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Kroger because even when I buy cut slices, they're Never ripe. I won't
waste My money again! I did buy a good-sized chunk of seedless watermelon.
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Hey, I haven't recieved much helpful info re: my thread taking MMS a 2nd time around.... Has anyone else had to do this?

Here's what one fella wrote to my question... direct to my email


Yes I took MMS two years ago and it seemed to get my ulcerative colitis into remission and that lasted for over a year but then I started to get symptoms again though not as bad and I tried it again
This time it made me very sick for a week I lost weight and it didn't help. I had been taking a bit of iodine for about 9 months by then and I had an idea to instead use a gram a day of iodide as an immune booster instead trying to wipe out the baddies with MMS. That got me into remission again and I've now been ok for a year again. I've also been rebuilding the bowel flora with probiotics because I'm sure MMS killed of a lot of it if not all.
I no longer think MMS is a good thing to use. I got banned for saying that on the MMS forum. I think there are better things and iodine or iodide along with diet and healthy living in other ways are the best way.
MMS is an unnatural man made chemical. That's my view I may be wrong but I researched it a great deal and supported others on the MMS forum for a year, so I know something about it.
I wish you good health.
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Old 05-25-2010, 09:38 PM
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Hello Bendello, I see that you already have a good response to your question on the thread you started... Hope your days will continue to grow brighter!!
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Just tried mms2 . first capsule. ewe! will not do it again . horrible burps. Drank tons of water with it. Been on mms1 for a month. Gonna stick with that. Got my whole family on it. Having success with it so far. Son got healed of sinus infection without antibiotics. Last time he had it turned into pnemonia. I put the mms1 in the humidifier so that it could help heal his sinuses while he slept. He also took 3 to 5 drops 2 or 3 x a day. Im working on ridding myself of hepatitis b.
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Stick with the mms1 smaller doses more frequently. Drink alot of water. preferably alkaline water. Find out about coffee enemas as they speed up the detox process. Awesome help for the liver. take probiotics . I really like Dr. Ohirras brand. Be kind to your body.You can have a great time without harming your system. Best wishes for renewed health.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:41 PM
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Hello dougG,
Sorry it's taken me so long to get back here, ...but to answer your question about
the herbs.......I noted that you said that you're staying away from the liver cleaning
herbs like Milk Thistle, ....
Gluthathione is spendy...and if you weighed 150 lbs. you'd
have to take 25 grams of it a day to completely combat viral attacks to the liver, this
is way too much dosing considering that other herbs and MMS being worked into a
day too.... so it's really not practical.

Red Clover is okay... but this is one of those
lesser considerations, compared to herbs that really gets the job done where you see
fast results within your system.

I know that Jim says it's better to take the MMS at the lower dose X 8 per day,
but my own experience with doing this, is that I slowly started noticing my energy and
weight dropping, so I jumped back up to the 8 drops X 5 to 8 times a day...and it seemed to stablize me better....
[I can not say with certainity, but I felt like the viruse was not being eliminated strong enough when I was on lower doses.]

MMS1 has successfully hammered away at my hep.C virus... viral loads continued to drop and so I finally stopped taking MMS everyday, though I still do take a 15 drop dose once or twice a week just in case...

As you pointed out, the Fruits and veggies, lean protein, etc. are good, and this is excellent advice, doug, .... I believe it's also good for a person to "know" what fruits, what veggies, meats etc. are high on the Alkaline scale, or better than others, and what foods on the Acid side of the Ph levels...

Tap water is acid normally, which is Not good to drink if ill, but if you get some of the Ph test strips and test filtered water after putting 3 to 4 drops of un-activated MMS per quart, you'd raise the Ph balance considerably.
Viruses, and diseases can not live in a body that is maintained on the Alkaline side...

For herbs, Try this, take a break from taking the MMS for 3 days,
~ and take "Long Dan Xie Gan San", pack into 00 sized capsules,
which makes your 500mg. per capsule, take 6 of these 3 times a day,

Along with this, take 10 of the green wheatgrass tablets 3 times a day.
~Instead of multi-vitamins, drink 3 bottles of the Ensure per day with taking
a B-Complex vitamins.
For meals durning these 3 days, eat cheifs salads, watermelon, spinach, and
either fish, tukey burgers, or chichen breast, [not fried]
If you feel like going jogging for a mile after your 3rd day, then you'll know you're on the right track to fulfilling a void that you're body needs, I'm sure you'll see what I mean energy wise though... You can also work your MMS doses in with the above too...by following Jim's advice on waiting a couple hrs. before or after herbals meds.

The Long Dan Xie Gan San is an antibiotic that carries a strong punch for
the body's immune system and sets the Spleen & Gallbladder back in balance with the Liver.
It also works to open up the pathways and clear up any infections and effects the water metabolism. [Benefits that are not found with the MMS alone.]
The Xiao Chai Hu San is not only the best liver cleanser that you'll find, but it is an effective viral killer too... though both of these should be taken 2 hrs apart from MMS...
With taking these kinds of prescription formula's, it does pay to know them well, or obtain sound advice on them, as some of them can become damaging if not properly taken, [such as taking too much of the "Guan Mu Tong" can damage the kidney's in some cases, some others are to be used for short term use only, etc.]
Every case is different to it's degree of liver-spleen-gallbladder, kidney etc..functions, stasis and pathogenic Qi relationships. But I believe that you'll have good success with the above mentioned formula.

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Just got the results of my viral load test... was hoping that it would be at or near Negative... No such luck it seems... Viral Load shot back up in the millions!! I stopped taking MMS full time about a month ago, and was only taking it about once a week.
After going through two bottles of MMS with 5 to 8 times a day for a few months, it really gets to be a pain and a little on the harsh side..so I was reasoning out that I probably needed a break with taking it anyway... I had only intended on stopping for a few days, but then I seemed to "feel good" even being off of it for awhile...
The virus clearly came back with a vengeance!!
I've got a medical grade ozone machine and working on putting the glass tube bubblier and IV supplies together to work along with the MMS... so hoping that will quicken the killing time of getting rid of the virus...
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One of the problems with using ozone is getting it sufficiently into the liver.
There is a physician in the Seattle area who will inject ozone into the portal vein through the rectum. He has cured some pretty serious liver things that way as this vein's blood from this location goes directly to the liver.

By far the most effective home therapy would be rectal insuffalation... it would have to be done at least daily.... maybe more.

Other applications are transdermally right over the liver. Aside from drinking it and saunas I am wondering what applications you may have in mind that I did not mention.

If you had the money you could go to Malaysia and receive a process much like dialysis. They take your blood out, ozonate it, then purifly it by pulling the toxins out, then return it to you. Unlike MAH all the blood is treated and repeatedly in the session. I think they may have one of these machines up and running in Mexico. Contact Peter Jovan of Ozone University to find out and to inquire if they are having success with Hep C. Since this is the most comprehensive ozone application available, if the answer is not yes, then you will be just looking at a palliative measure.

Dr Shallenburger has had some success with HIV though Major Auto-Hemotherapy but he did not use the cure word. Daily treatments are required for a while. He has not discussed the treatment of hep c.

One the other hand ultraviolet blood radiation has demonstrated some success with hep. B in studies by Olney. Approximately 4 treatments were required.
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No such luck it seems... Viral Load shot back up in the millions!!
The virus clearly came back with a vengeance!!
I've got a medical grade ozone machine and working on putting the glass tube bubblier and IV supplies together to work along with the MMS... so hoping that will quicken the killing time of getting rid of the virus...
Hobo, hope the ozone machine along with the MMS will work for you. Thanks for the update, keep up the good fight.
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Sorry to hear all that hobo, please continue and don't give up my friend.
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I didn't know that it was difficult to get the ozone into the liver, as I guess I'll start with a 500ml IV drip, with Saline and Ozone bubbled together. So was thinking that since the liver is the primary filter for the blood, that it should get a good flow too...but maybe not so good with the HVC virus...don't know... It would be nice to hear what someone has experienced using the same methods.
You mentioned that it was also applied directly to the portal vein, viva injection, that's also very interesting, would you happen to have a web link that would explain all these methods in detail & etc.?
I really don't know everything about this, but have been trying to read everything that I can about the different protocols etc.. Right now I'm trying to figure out how to fit a LPM regulator onto a welding tank..:-}

Thanks Kind2Creatures, I believe that if I started hitting the MMS again, basically starting all over again..that it would accumulate and bring the viral load back down..but anyone who has been taking MMS 5 to 8 hrs a day for a few months will most likely know the wear and tear it takes upon the energy behind the battle..it does get old after awhile... so thinking that...for some...who might get to this point and place...that ozone might just be a good back up plan to use with the MMS to lesson the strain of the battle...
I was reading that one protocol called for 3 treatments a week of ozone...so wondering what a good protocol would be to work the MMS into this weeks treatment too?

Thank you asgardsurfer, As for giving up..I'd be lying if I said that I've never felt that way,....I may have lost a battle, not the first time...hope it will be the last...but the war continues...:-}
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Good to hear.
I don't know how you feel about MMS drip/intravenous. I believe Jim could give you a good insight on this as he and many others have done it already.
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Hobo, I have started a new thread with you in mind for the use of ozone so look for it in general discussion.

(thread moved to Alternative Therapies - Admin.)
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Thanks asguardsurfer, I do remember something being mentioned about that on one of his video's, will have to look into the info. about it...

Thanks Arrow... I'll go check that out...
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