Taste Tested: Citric Acid Comparable to Increased Citrus Juice
After a long Thanksgiving break, I bought some citric acid powder from the health food store where I buy my flax seed.
Conclusions: IF you stick to 5-1 solution ratio, citric acid has the strongest chlorine smell and taste compared to only 5-1 lemon or lime juice.
However, when you use concentrated lemon or lime juice in a 20-1 ratio, and then compare it to the activated 5-1 citric acid solution AFTER adding water to the same 20-1 dilution of lemon or lime juice concentrate, THEN the chlorine taste and smell is the same in all.
Likewise, once two ounces of water is added for gulping to any of the above solutions, no chlorine concentration strength differences can be tasted.
Hence, using greater quantity of the weaker concentrated lime or lemon juice actually does produce the same activation of chlorine dioxide as does much less 10% citric acid solution--according to taste comparison.
Originally Posted by corpus;13848
3. Fresh key lime juice at 20-1 ratios is a slightly better activator than cold concentrated lemon juice at 20-1 ratios activated for 6 minutes.
Unknown: How does either 20-1 fresh key lime juice or concentrated lemon juice compare to citric acid in both 5-1 and 20-1 ratios??
If I ever buy citirc acid, I will do the taste test comparison. I can't accept the statement that citric acid activator is 10 times better in absolute terms. It might be better when only using 5-1 ratios and comparing to 5% vinegar, but I doubt it is any better than the 20-1 key lime juice or 20-1 cold concentrated lemon juice when given double time to activate.
Would love to get some actual instrument [B
measured chlorine dioxide[/B] data with these various solutions if someone was so inclined.
Hope everyone isn't sick of hearing from me yet (a sickness MMS can't cure), but I think I played with activation efficiency as much as I can without instrumentation. So, since I hardly ever get sick, I might never know if the stuff really works from personal experience.
I do hope to hear credible detailed accounts from others of both successes and failures when using MMS, and I hope for controlled test environments and further objective testing on various conditions becomes widespread.
Anti-Oxident AND Chlorine Dioxide Use and Effectiveness
For the week before Thanksgiving that I took at least 2 doses a day of 15 drops MMS, one in the morning on an empty stomach and one before bed, I was very careful not to take any vitamin C, eat oranges, or drink any juice containing vitamin C. When I got back home from Thanksgiving (where I didn't have any MMS for 5 days), I noticed my eyes were a bit itchy and sinus was stuffy, so I took a vitamin C. Within a few minutes, dramatically my head and nose dried up and a little later my eyes stopped itching. I realized that this whole time I hadn't been getting enough anti-oxidents to remove all the byproducts of my heavy chlorine dioxide dosing--free radicals galore in my body. I also felt more peppy.
I'm convinced that the best course of action even while treating serious illness with heavy MMS doses would be to take the MMS at bedtime, but take plenty of anti-oxidents and no MMS in the morning. Most people don't realize that coffee is the number one source of anti-oxidents in the typical USA diet, which we naturally drink in the morning (which I did continue drinking each morning over Thanksgiving). So the morning would also be the natual and most effective time to eat vitamin C rich foods and/or take vitamin C and other anti-oxident supplements!
It is very important to remove all those free radicals made by chlorine oxidation the night before to prevent damage to the liver.
Although I had no serious illness, I took malaria dosing of MMS just to see how it would affect my body. My side affects were minimal.
However, I have noticed better body functioning with less BPH and less blood sugar problems. I'm quite encouraged in fact!
A childhood friend died the weekend before Thanksgiving Day. I asked (begged) her to please take MMS. I had a bottle I wanted to give her. She had lung cancer and brain cancer. She said she wanted to live and was going to do what her doctor wanted her to do which was chemotherapy. We'll never know whether she would have gotten her wish to live now. I'm very sorry.
I'm so sorry baby. Its very hard to watch someone go when you think they really do have chance given the right treatments. There are millions yet that will continue to go down under the hand of pharmageddon.
It is important to educate people about alternative medicine, right diet, and protocols of detox long before they get sick.
I had a friend die of lung cancer a few years ago. She was committed to stabilized oxygen and she took about 20 drops 2 times a day. Little good it did her. She held in her hand the potential cure but did not know how to use it.
Thank god Jim Humble finally decided to break this out into the mainstream.
I just wonder about those people who tried to hold MMS back. Snaking around trying to figure how to make money on it I suppose. Who can say. Many thousands might be living now if it came out 5 years ago.
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My point is that more activator seems to have made stronger chlorine dioxide solutions both times I used excessive amounts of fresh squeezed lime juice, assuming my body's reaction IS the true measure of effectiveness--which is what we all seem to go by per Jim's experience. (Is the reaction really all due to flushing the system of bad stuff??)
Yes, Corpus, I wonder about this too. But then there are those who get so they never have nausea or runs.
So you're saying your friend did not activate the stabilized oxygen? Yes, I feel my brother and sister-in-law who died within 9 months of each other this year could have been saved. I learned about MMS too late for them though.
I've been playing with taking MMS for about 10 days. The first days I started slow---muscle tested myself for 3 drops for starters and steadily increased to 9 drops. I mixed it with the activator as instructed. Then on Thanksgiving morning I did 9 drops on a basically empty stomach. Oh my! Stomach cramps for 6 hours and then diareaha for about 12.
I've backed off completely for a few days and have been slowly starting back up, but only after a meal. I'm doing 3 to 4 drops working up even though I muscle test for more. I then do another 3-4 drops 2 hours later as I've read in several of the posts that is a good protocol.
Welcome to the forum, Puma's grin.
What you describe sounds about right. Plenty would say you should not have stopped for a few days, but kept going at a reduced rate.
Husband and I have done the same thing as you, though and now he is back on track, doing it properly. 2 days back he was up to 15 drops and had abdominal pains, so he wanted a couple of day's rest. Yesterday he had 14 drops and vomited 30 minutes later (but he looked so cheerful!)
He is up to 12 drops now and 13 drops in an hour. We have been going slow because of various health problems, not wanting too much aggravation.
Please keep at it, and stay in touch - this is a learning curve for so many.
Then on Thanksgiving morning I did 9 drops on a basically empty stomach. Oh my! Stomach cramps for 6 hours and then diareaha for about 12.
PG, your experience is the same as mine. Using the drops on an empty stomach gave entirely different results than taking it at another time. I can take 15 drops at bedtime with no problem, but 10 drops first thing in the morning give my 24 hr. diarrhea. I've tried twice and am soon going to try again at just 5 drops in the am and see what happens.
What is happening that is different on an empty stomach?
I all I know is that Jim is now saying it is best to take it on an empty stomach but only at a dosage you can tolerate. So It may take someone 12 drops to get sick after taking it after a meal but maybe only a couple of drops on an empty stomach. He is not saying that you must take it on an empty stomach though
Oh my. What a hard day to discover the consequences. I also have taken 15 drops on a basically empty stomach in the a.m. and suffered severe nausea while at church. I had to lie down on a couch during services. I knew it would pass and kept telling people I wasn't contagious. At any rate I'll never take it on an empty stomach again unless I want to feel miserable. I'm the only one in my family who has gotten to the maintenance dose already. I was dedicated to getting there and did not go at it haphazardly. I have been brushing with the mixture before swallowing it at bedtime but have not seen any teeth-brightening results. Anyone? I'll have to wait until my next dental visit to see if my gums and teeth have improved.
Oh my. What a hard day to discover the consequences. I also have taken 15 drops on a basically empty stomach in the a.m. and suffered severe nausea while at church. I had to lie down on a couch during services. I knew it would pass and kept telling people I wasn't contagious. At any rate I'll never take it on an empty stomach again unless I want to feel miserable.
But I still wonder--if you get sick taking it on an empty stomach, doesn't that mean you still have something toxic to get rid of, even though you can take 15 drops with no problem after a meal?
Had the same experience today. Took MMS in the morning on an empty stomach and my stomach felt queasy most of the day. I have used it many times and never had any stomach issues other than a little extra acidity. My wife has had the queasy stomach thing most times she uses it in the evening, but she has Lyme disease.
It had neatly taken care of a cold and I quit taking the ten drops I was using. I woke up in the morning with full blown cold symptoms out of nowhere. Apparently the cold virus was greatly reduced, but not eliminated. So I took a dose before work. I would have rather have dealt with the cold. This evening the cold symptoms are reduced a lot, but I do not think I will take a dose tonight.