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Re: Empty Stomach and fitting in supplements. I took 15 drops on a fasting stomach and got very ill feeling but lost "nothing." I felt very sick and wouldn't want to repeat the experience! Once you're up to 3 times daily it's very hard to work in supplements around MMS. I've given up my multi altogether because it has Vit C and will resume it once I start the maintenance dose.

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Thank you Arrow.
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I should probably tell of my experience with MMS before I forget the details. I gradually worked up until Monday night I took 13 drops with no reaction of any sort. Tuesday morning I moved up to 14 drops. However, instead of taking it mid-morning as I had been doing, I decided to take it first thing when I got up—on an empty stomach. About 20 minutes later, I felt nauseous and had a mild diarrhea. This lasted for about an hour. About 5 hours after I had taken the drops, I suddenly felt awful and had severe diarrhea. This lasted for about 10 minutes and was gone as suddenly as it started. Tuesday evening I cut back to 12 drops.

Wednesday morning, not wanting to duplicate Tuesday’s experience and thinking that drops taken on an empty stomach were more potent, I cut back to 10 drops. No reactions. Wednesday evening –13 drops.

Thursday morning I moved up to 12 drops. I had no reaction until about 4 hours later and then had a severe diarrhea that lasted about 24 hours—didn’t make it the 15 feet from the bed to the toilet several times last night. I haven’t taken any drops since.

I am a bit undecided on what I should do next.

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That must have been a bit alarming, Mari.
I don't know what Arrow or anyone else would say, but I would be inclined to have two days of NO drops, then start again - say, down to eight drops and then slowly increase. Or have you reached the stage where you can go to maintenace of 6 drops daily?
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Mari, The fact that you've been ill means your body is eliminating the poisons killed by the MMS. Do not stop the MMS. Read what Jim has to say about it. Your body is doing exactly what it needs to do by being sick and this is a good thing. Who knows what diseases it's getting rid of. Stay the course and increase gradually again a drop from where you began to be sick. I am on day 5 of 15 drops 3 times daily. I had to go to juice instead of water as my sense of smell was heightened and the MMS was gagging me but on the 4th day I felt normal again after feeling queasy those first three days. This is such a great process! I look forward to the maintenance dose at bedtime and taking all my Vit. C and supplements the other 12 hours. You can do this and your body's immune system will protect you if you give it a chance.
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Curious as to why you are taking three 15-drop doses per day, when Jim suggests two doses... Are you trying to eliminate a particular problem, or are you just doing a general flush? (for lack of better words)
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TREATMENT FOR CANCER, FLU, DIABETES: POSSIBLE CURE----M.M.S.
Here is something your doctor will never tell you, there has been a medical test for cancer that is 99% effective for more than 25 years. It is more effective, less dangerous and cheaper than all other medical cancer tests. It's called AMAS cancer test. You don't have to go to a doctor, the test is available on the Internet. The cost is $165. The kit is free, you take a smear of your own blood and send it in and pay when the results are ready. The test is for specific cancer antibodies that will be present. Go to www.oncolabinc.com. I have no financial interest what so ever.
You can get an idea if the MMS will handle the problem by evaluating the nausea. That is, if you start out at say one drop or even 1/2 drop and it does not make you nauseous and then you begin to increase the drops twice a day once in the morning and once in the evening. That is if 1/2 drop doesn't make you nauseous in the morning, then in the evening or late afternoon try one full drop. Then the next morning take two drops and in the evening 3 drops. Sooner or later the number of drops is going to make you nauseous. You then take a drop or two less the next dose for a time or two and continue to increase the drops. You are always looking for the nauseous point, taking less for a time or two and attempting to take more.
You will be able to know if it is going to help you if you can continue to pass the nausea point and increase the drops. What is happening is that when nausea hits, some of the of cancer has been destroyed and it is now a poison that the body can clear out. Being able to clear out this poison is a part of it. The body can clear this poison out but it might generate some nausea in the process, or diarrhea or even vomiting. That's not bad. The idea is that as the cancer is destroyed the body must clean out the poisons. As the cancer is destroyed the body can tolerate more and more drops. That's the indicator, is the body being able to tolerate more and more drops? If you find that you finally can increase the drops without getting nauseous it is an indicator that the body is doing it's job.
In the case of cancer, you have got to work at it. You start out slowly but increase quickly. At first you might just take the drops twice a day, but as you find you can do it twice a day without nausea, then increase to three times a day, and then four, and even as much as five times a day.
What would indicate that you are not getting well is if the body got nauseous every time you take a dose no matter what amount of dose it is, and the body never seems to be able to increase the doses. If you can take say two drops at a time without nausea and you get nausea when you go to three drops, you may have to tolerate the nausea for a short time, but if the nausea always occures when you take three drops, it shows that you are not gaining on the cancer. That can happen if the cancer is growing faster than the MMS is killing it. There is, however, always hope. Read below. There are other items that can help. Never, however, in anycase stop taking the MMS.
So if there is an indication that one is not improving, then I suggest the following direction. Purchase some Indian Herb from Kathleen in texas. It costs $60 a vial and that is plenty. Phone 806 647‑1741 She has a thousand letters from people who have been helped. She and her father have been selling the Indian herb for over 60 years. When you get this herb use it with the MMS to get the best results.
Then get some Paradophillus from Jeff Maehr at 970 731‑9724 his stuff has cured hundreds of animals and many people of cancer and it is now helping people who I know. Use it with the MMS.
The AMAS cancer test listed above gives anyone a fantastic advantage. One can do a test, use the MMS for several weeks or a month and then do a second test to see how much improvement has taken place or to see if any improvement has happened at all.

When I mention drops of MMS I always mean add 5 times that many drops of lemon, lime, or citric acid solution, wait three minutes and then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. Never use MMS without the addition of lemon, lime, or citric acid or in an emergency if you have no citric acids, use vinegar. Use only apple, grape, or pineapple juice without added vitamin C or ascorbic acid.
What is the Normal MMS Protocol
Note: When following the instructions below, keep this paragraph in mind. Always activate the MMS drops with one of the food acids, either lemon juice drops, or lime juice drops, or citric acid solution drops (to make citric acid solution add 1 level tablespoon of citric acid and 9 tablespoons of water. Store it in a bottle with a lid.) Always use 5 drops of one of these food acids to each one drop of MMS, mix in a empty dry glass and wait at least 3 minutes, then add 1/3 to 2/3 glass of water or juice and drink. (You can expand the 3 minutes out to 10 minutes, and after adding the juice or water you can wait up to an hour before drinking.)
1. All protocol for taking MMS in the Americas starts with one or two drops. Never start with more than one or two drops. People who are very sick and/or sensitive should start with ½ drop. Activate the drops as given above.
2. If you do OK and do not notice nausea on the first dose, increase by one drop for the second dose. If you notice nausea reduce the amount of MMS for the next dose. Do two doses a day, one in the morning and one in the evening. Continue to increase by one drop each time you take a new dose. When you notice nausea, reduce the dose by one drop, or bad diarrhea reduce by 2 or 3 drops. Usually reduce for one or two times before going back the amount that it took to make you nauseous.
Note: If you notice diarrhea, or even vomiting that is not a bad sign. The body is simply throwing off poisons and cleaning itself out. Everyone says that they feel much better after the diarrhea. You do not have to take any medicine for the diarrhea. It will go away as fast as it came. It will not last. It is not real diarrhea as the body is just cleaning out, and it is not caused by bacteria or virus. When the poison is gone, the diarrhea is gone.
3. Continue to follow the procedure given in 2 above. Until you reach 15 drops twice a day without nausea. At that point increase to 3 times a day. Stay at 3 times a day for at least one week and then reduce the drops to 4 to 6 drops a day for older people and 4 to 6 drops twice a week for younger people.
Note: Once you have completed step 3 above most of the viral, bacteria, mold, and yeast load will be gone from your body. Your body will be clean. You no longer have to worry about feeding the microorganism load. You can base you diet on nutrition, rather than not feeding the load. The diabetes will be gone, thus you no longer need to worry about sugar. You won't have to worry about the pancreas over reacting thus giving you a shock of insulin. Instead it will give you just enough insulin to knock the blood sugar lever to the right level (You won't feel sleepy after eating a candy bar). Your body will then be able to easily adsorb vitamins and minerals and many other nutrients it might have been missing up to this time. You should feel better as time goes by. Do not quit taking the MMS.
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My MMS experience.
But first:
Like many I have been following the interesting discussions here and other places. Of course there were always a few of the typical noisy negatives types that demand to see double, triple, quadruple etc etc blind testing be done. Naturally these test must only be done by some imaginary company is totally honest and would never ever consider fudging the results. Not willing to wait for that to happen, so for better or worse, I rely on the unthinkable. I use my own common good sense. Now I realize that some many find this startling and hard to believe that I do not require someone else to tell me what to think. As I am quite willing and able to think for myself and will accept whatever the results maybe, but then that is the way I work.

Being that this is a relatively unknown procedure, the majority of what we do know about it comes from Jim H’s book. He was amazed by the fact that not only did it work, but how quickly it worked! This then lead to his years of testing and the step by step, bit by bit improving the procedure. As problems come up changes were made and this process is still going on.

Thus after reading the book cover to cover you are left with one of two conclusions. Jim H is the either worlds greatest con artist and this is nothing but a giant scam making him an incredibly small amount of money OR it is a true and factual account of what he has been doing all these years. My take is that this is way to much work just to be a scam.

With that in mind I decided to buy a bottle to have on hand just in case I might need it.
This was towards the end of the third week in September when I ordered the bottle from Arrowwind, being that I was in good health I told her no rush was needed. WRONG! Seems the very next day I came down with the flu or maybe food poisoning, not sure which, but there was no question that I was sicker then a dog for that entire weekend. Literally every muscle in the body painfully ached when required to move. Only relief was to lie perfectly still and not move. A turtle lying on its back had more options then I did. When the need arose to go to the bathroom this was 15-20 minutes of pain trying to slowly work my way up to a sitting position. Standing and walking (a slow wobbly shuffle) was also interesting. Sunday evening whatever this was departed as quickly as it came.

I was now able to move around in a more or less normal manner, but I was totally worn out and had no energy.

Wednesday expecting MMS to arrive today. (it does late in the afternoon) That morning go to local HF store try to buy some critic acid they have everything but it. Go to second local HF store they are not open yet. Continue to more distance HF store yes they carry it, but they are temporarily out of stock. Nice store though. This is first time in it, has lots of neat stuff.

Continue onto one of my clients and help him solve some assembly problems and on way back stop at the second HF store, it is now open. They don’t have any but will order it and should have it Friday.

It is now Thursday. I still have a few lingering aches and pains from last weekend ordeal plus a slight cough. So even though I do not have the critic acid yet I do have vinegar. So I guess is time to boldly go where someone has gone before. Will maybe not too boldly I will start out at 2 drops. (OK who is making that chicken clucking sound out there?)

Day one: Did not notice any extreme reaction. Although was tired and listless all day, not sure if it is cause and effect or just coincidence. Also do not like the taste of vinegar.

Day two: No reaction. Not quite as tired as yesterday still have slight cough. (In the past when ever I have had a cold within a week or less the typical cold symptoms will have departed with the exception of the coughing part always seems to linger on forever. So I’m curious if MMS will have an effect here.)
Also, most definitely, do not like the taste of vinegar! However my critic acid arrived today.

Day three: No reaction to the MMS. No other changes since yesterday.
Used the critic acid in place of vinegar, not the greatest taste but much, much nicer.

Day four: Throwing caution to the wind I went to a 3 drop mixture. Still no reaction to MMS. Maybe very slight diarrhea, but not enough to cause any problems at all. Probable not even related to the MMS.

Day five: Up to 4 drops today. No reaction. All aches and pains from last weeks ordeal appear to be gone. Only thing remaining is the persistent cough.

Day six. Same as yesterday.

Day seven: Up to six drops no reaction.

Day eight: More the same.

Day eight: still more of the same

Day nine: Up to 8 drops. Had big garage sale last two days got rid of lots of useless stuff but not the persistent cough.

Day ten: Up to 10 drops.
Day eleven: Persistent cough still hanging on.

So in conclusion I think that it is now safe to say that MMS is not very good as a cough medicine. Of course I did start out at a very low dosage and slowly worked up, but still I did not notice any reaction either good or bad. Well the taste could be better but I have been using water rather then a fruit juice. Also I am wondering if I had MMS available to take at the beginning of this “cold” if the results might have been different. Although I have no plans or desire to retest this in the immediate future.
I do not expect MMS will work on every problem and if this is typical of areas where it will not work I would not consider that to be a serious failure.
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My MMS experience.
But first:
Like many I have been following the interesting discussions here and other places. Of course there were always a few of the typical noisy negatives types that demand to see double, triple, quadruple etc etc blind testing be done. Naturally these test must only be done by some imaginary company is totally honest and would never ever consider fudging the results. Not willing to wait for that to happen, so for better or worse, I rely on the unthinkable. I use my own common good sense. Now I realize that some many find this startling and hard to believe that I do not require someone else to tell me what to think. As I am quite willing and able to think for myself and will accept whatever the results maybe, but then that is the way I work.

Being that this is a relatively unknown procedure, the majority of what we do know about it comes from Jim H’s book. He was amazed by the fact that not only did it work, but how quickly it worked! This then lead to his years of testing and the step by step, bit by bit improving the procedure. As problems come up changes were made and this process is still going on.

Thus after reading the book cover to cover you are left with one of two conclusions. Jim H is the either worlds greatest con artist and this is nothing but a giant scam making him an incredibly small amount of money OR it is a true and factual account of what he has been doing all these years. My take is that this is way to much work just to be a scam.

With that in mind I decided to buy a bottle to have on hand just in case I might need it.
This was towards the end of the third week in September when I ordered the bottle from Arrowwind, being that I was in good health I told her no rush was needed. WRONG! Seems the very next day I came down with the flu or maybe food poisoning, not sure which, but there was no question that I was sicker then a dog for that entire weekend. Literally every muscle in the body painfully ached when required to move. Only relief was to lie perfectly still and not move. A turtle lying on its back had more options then I did. When the need arose to go to the bathroom this was 15-20 minutes of pain trying to slowly work my way up to a sitting position. Standing and walking (a slow wobbly shuffle) was also interesting. Sunday evening whatever this was departed as quickly as it came.

I was now able to move around in a more or less normal manner, but I was totally worn out and had no energy.

Wednesday expecting MMS to arrive today. (it does late in the afternoon) That morning go to local HF store try to buy some critic acid they have everything but it. Go to second local HF store they are not open yet. Continue to more distance HF store yes they carry it, but they are temporarily out of stock. Nice store though. This is first time in it, has lots of neat stuff.

Continue onto one of my clients and help him solve some assembly problems and on way back stop at the second HF store, it is now open. They don’t have any but will order it and should have it Friday.

It is now Thursday. I still have a few lingering aches and pains from last weekend ordeal plus a slight cough. So even though I do not have the critic acid yet I do have vinegar. So I guess is time to boldly go where someone has gone before. Will maybe not too boldly I will start out at 2 drops. (OK who is making that chicken clucking sound out there?)

Day one: Did not notice any extreme reaction. Although was tired and listless all day, not sure if it is cause and effect or just coincidence. Also do not like the taste of vinegar.

Day two: No reaction. Not quite as tired as yesterday still have slight cough. (In the past when ever I have had a cold within a week or less the typical cold symptoms will have departed with the exception of the coughing part always seems to linger on forever. So I’m curious if MMS will have an effect here.)
Also, most definitely, do not like the taste of vinegar! However my critic acid arrived today.

Day three: No reaction to the MMS. No other changes since yesterday.
Used the critic acid in place of vinegar, not the greatest taste but much, much nicer.

Day four: Throwing caution to the wind I went to a 3 drop mixture. Still no reaction to MMS. Maybe very slight diarrhea, but not enough to cause any problems at all. Probable not even related to the MMS.

Day five: Up to 4 drops today. No reaction. All aches and pains from last weeks ordeal appear to be gone. Only thing remaining is the persistent cough.

Day six. Same as yesterday.

Day seven: Up to six drops no reaction.

Day eight: More the same.

Day eight: still more of the same

Day nine: Up to 8 drops. Had big garage sale last two days got rid of lots of useless stuff but not the persistent cough.

Day ten: Up to 10 drops.
Day eleven: Persistent cough still hanging on.

So in conclusion I think that it is now safe to say that MMS is not very good as a cough medicine. Of course I did start out at a very low dosage and slowly worked up, but still I did not notice any reaction either good or bad. Well the taste could be better but I have been using water rather then a fruit juice. Also I am wondering if I had MMS available to take at the beginning of this “cold” if the results might have been different. Although I have no plans or desire to retest this in the immediate future.
I do not expect MMS will work on every problem and if this is typical of areas where it will not work I would not consider that to be a serious failure.
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Hello,

Still want to get MMS and activator at the best deal? Go to ebay and search MMS look for 2004lettie for great deals. We did! She is a Breast Cancer survivor!
Thanks!
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Still want to get MMS and activator at the best deal? Go to ebay and search MMS look for 2004lettie for great deals. We did! She is a Breast Cancer survivor!
I just looked at Ebay. The only seller at the moment is a certain miraclemineralsupp.

I'll just keep the data you gave for now.

Gerry

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I found 2004lettie.
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/eBayISAPI.dll?...m=180179072239
A bottle of MMS is being sold for $7.95 plus shipping. That's a good price.


She is selling something she calls Detox Tea. I do wish she would list the ingredients! Customers want to know what they are buying.
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Gerry, have you tried MMS on any of your animals? did you get any results?
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My protocol ended Sunday so Monday I dropped to a maintenance dose of 6 drops sometime before bedtime. My 6th day of the 15-drop protocol I had my first bout of diarhhea. My son however, can't seem to increase drops at all without diarhhea. He's had intestinal problems digesting food and bad gas. Kind of makes you shy of dating in his case. Anyway, I'm back to taking my multi which has Vit C "the other 12 hours." I also brush with my 6 drops in 1/4 C water for one minute, then add another 1/4 C of water and chug it down. I don't think I'll be doing the baking soda things. Too nasty. After 15 drops, 6 drops is very manageable and welcome again. I had a conversation with someone who is apparently terminal and I only hope he will start the MMS before it's too late. These are the people who could be helped big time and in turn help others with their testimonials. I told him I'd give him a bottle and I want him to live. I'm praying for him. I also know a dog with cancer and maybe I should offer to treat it, then the owner would take some for his own cancer.

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Thanks baby for taking the time to write the details of your MMS journey.
I just reviewed your posts and I can't seem to figure out what you were trying to treat or if you have experienced any benefit.

Can you share these details with us?

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