My prostatitis story

helpmyprostate · � #76 � 05-02-2011, 02:15 PM

it might be that this is more of a nat med site. i wouldnt have any idea why else. abx are for and last resort here and in the case of bacterial prostatitis that is the resort. i tried to message you but you dont have that ability... mahybe you are on high alert...

anyway i hope you stay with us as there is a good group here and we are trying everything. we help out each other unlike that angry cp sites that just rant. your knowledge and experience is needed here.

iwillbecured · � #77 � 05-02-2011, 02:25 PM

I am on high alert. I don't know... I hope they allow me to stay here, I'm not doing this for fun lol, and I don't gain anything from being here other than I really want to help you guys, because I know how it feels as a sufferer with this disease for 6 years. It was difficult, but I used natural compounds together with medicine - and it worked!!! (so far :P) Anyway, I've spent hours and hours going over all the latest studies, lots of studies on antbiotics, prostatitis, phytochemicals, pharmokinetics of drugs and supplements, biofilms, types of infections, new treatments etc etc...
I've learned so much in the process compared to when I was back on the forum that closed down. I would love to offer a solution that is completely natural without resorting to antbitiocs... but we all know, this is one tough problem to beat as it is. Hope to have a good intelligent discussion. It's nice that we all want to help each other

lovelife · � #78 � 05-03-2011, 10:19 AM

Thanks for posting iwillbecured.......

I wiil beat this · � #79 � 05-03-2011, 06:32 PM

I really think this could be my problem I remember a long time ago before I had this issuse with my prostate me and my wife had trich I dont think I did right taken the meds we had sex while still on the meds and I'm sure I was still drinking alcohol

if you google this there is lots of lit on trichomonas infecting the prostate I just posted this because it was the last one I read but not the informative

Quote:

Canton Urology Hospital: Trichomonas Prostatitis overview

Trichomoniasis is a human parasite, it is caused by parasitic prostatitis in the prostate, may be called trichomonas prostatitis. Some academics have also called this situation of prostate disease trichomoniasis. Trichomoniasis prostatitis is not uncommon in clinical practice, but easily overlooked. The reason, partly because the cause of prostatitis diagnosis of trichomoniasis (Trichomonas found) difficult; and partly because many clinicians are more accustomed to see prostatitis due to bacterial infection.
we all know, Trichomonas vaginitis is a common disease of women, when men and women with trichomoniasis vaginitis, after intercourse, can be transmitted.
trichomonas prostatitis symptoms similar to bacterial prostatitis, the terminal can show pain when urinating, dull perineal, rectal bulge and discomfort. Acute attack, but also frequent urination, urgency, dysuria and other urinary tract irritation, fever or other systemic symptoms.
trichomonas trichomonas prostatitis patients in the clinic is generally more difficult to detect, even take a fresh urine Urinary stone or prostate specimens Microscopic examination of specimens, they often can be found a number of times trichomoniasis. Busy with clinics, doctors and accustomed to treat bacterial causes of prostatitis, and prostate massage fluid when the patients have to take some pain, repeated sampling is difficult, therefore, diagnosis is relatively difficult. However, if found both of these clinical symptoms of prostatitis, antibiotic treatment and poor patient, ask whether the spouse in the diagnosis of vaginal trichomoniasis very useful history. Because Trichomonas men almost without exception from the woman’s infection, vaginal trichomoniasis and women are both convenient and accurate examination, for which they should be mobilized to accept the check. In addition, the spouse suffered from trichomonas “has more” of the men, still suffering from trichomoniasis prostatitis possible, because the couple lives with each other through sexual transmission, the trichomonas infection delayed healing. Therefore, whether the man directly to find out trichomoniasis, or the woman with trichomonas vaginitis, both partners should work together to oral metronidazole treatment, preferably under the guidance of a doctor Kidney medication, to receive more significant effect.
eventually, to mention that the trichomonas prostatitis can also be complicated with bacterial infection, the process should not be ignored in the treatment of this factor, if the bacterial culture can be found in prostatic fluid without bacterial growth, bacteria cause Drug sensitivity tests were done at the same time to use of antibiotics treatment, the effect will be even more significant.
Canton Urology Hospital: trichomonas prostatitis symptom

symptoms similar to chronic bacterial prostatitis

mainly urethra discharge, the end of tingling urination, perineum and rectum Department of tingling or heavy feeling. Acute attack, but also frequent urination, urgency, dysuria and other “stimulus urinary” symptoms, fever or other systemic symptoms.
Therefore, the clinical experience some patients with chronic prostatitis patients even after long-term regular antibiotic treatment efficacy is not clear or no effect, it is necessary to consider whether it is trichomonas prostatitis. Because the only effective antibiotic for bacteria, for use against trichomonas prostate to be “powerless” the. At this time, prostate fluid examination can be found in Trichomonas mental health hospitals to diagnose trichomonas prostatitis.
Canton Urology Hospital: trichomonas prostatitis drug treatment

(1) systemic treatment: metronidazole, each 0.2 g orally, 3 times a day, 15 to 20, for a course, no need to repeat the treatment after one course of treatment.
(2) local administration of the urethra: urethra to 1:5000 silver nitrate irrigation for the treatment of trichomonas infection of the prostate often exist in Trichomonas urethritis.
(3) prostate massage: once a week to help the prostatic fluid discharge.
sex life during treatment should be stopped, but the woman should be treated in time trichomonas vaginitis.
Canton Urology Hospital: trichomonas prostatitis easily overlooked in the clinical reasons

Trichomoniasis is a human parasite, it is caused by parasitic prostatitis in the prostate, may be called trichomonas prostatitis. Some academics have also called this situation of prostate disease trichomoniasis. Trichomoniasis prostatitis is not uncommon in clinical practice, but easily overlooked. The reason, partly because the cause of prostatitis diagnosis of trichomoniasis (Trichomonas found) difficult; and partly because many clinicians are accustomed to see more of prostatitis due to bacterial infection

I wiil beat this · � #80 � 05-03-2011, 08:03 PM

Quote:

The present report describes a case of persistent urethritis accompanied by prostatitis due to Trichomonas vaginalis in a young male patient. The importance of the laboratory diagnosis of trichomoniasis in persistent or recurrent urethritis (ie, testing samples from multiple sites) is highlighted, with the aim of improving the clinical recognition of this pathogen.

Persistent urethritis and prostatitis due to Trichomonas vaginalis: A case report

kind2creatures · � #81 � 05-03-2011, 08:50 PM

Usnea (usnea barbata) is an herb that is an anti-parasitic that is known to be effective against trichomonas. They say it is superior to the drug Flagyl (metronidazole), which is widely prescribed for trichomonas infection, but can also cause cancer. Of course it should be thoroughly researched for side effects and dosage before using, but it's just a suggestion. Here's a site with just a bit of info, couldn't find a better one. https://www.life-enthusiast.com/index...s/Plants/Usnea

RCannon · � #82 � 05-03-2011, 10:06 PM

Lots of great info here. I found the site about prostate massage. I don't have a big problem yet.

I was reading about cranberry juice making bacteria not stick to kidneys. They also said it must be RAW juice, not sweetened because that just feeds the bacteria (and fungus I would think).

Combine that with some raw ginger, which is antifungal and many other things. (chew up a sugar cube size or so).

Another thing I think is a factor probably is low vitamin D, which is common. Vit D is n eeded to fight bacteria and virus'. See vitamindcouncil.org. He advocates large short term amounts when sick so this is a bit diffferent, but 10,000 is considered the upper limit, which isn't really that much (1/4mg, and you make that much in the sun in 1/2 hr at the beach at noonish. I'd take that and back off to 7000 or so after 4 months and get a blood test. FYI I've been taking 8000 over last 6mo and got to 87ng/l. 80 is about optimal according to some. 50 is minimum to get full benefits over time.

Raw garlic is a very effective antibiotic. Chew some of that with the cranberry juice.

Lastly I use something called Allibiotic from NOW brand. It has several herbal antibiotics. It seems to help me get rid of things when taken early. It's strong stuff because I like to chew it so see what it's like.

One more thing- virgin coconut oil is supposed to be good against bacteria and I think fungi too. It's a great oil for energy and the brain also.

And selenium is good against cancers- maybe it would help.

Do not take iron- bacteria love it. And I'd cut back on the red meat with all the iron too.

An infrared lamp penetrates deep- it might work too to heat the area.

Well I'm full of ideas. An inversion table would be good too, to relieve the pressure. I got a good one from WalMart, Golds GYm brand. Great for the back.

Good luck.

iwillbecured · � #83 � 05-04-2011, 01:00 AM

I'm wondering how many guys here have or had mild fever and night sweats with their prostatitis? In non-bacterial prostatitis these symptoms aren't mentioned. Only in bacterial prostatitis does it show low grade fever as a possible symptom. I also knew that antibitocs were working for me because antibiotics would stop the pyrexia (fever) and also stop the night sweats within a short period of time of starting them.

iwillbecured · � #84 � 05-04-2011, 06:49 AM

Effect of pomegranate peel extracts on experimental prostatitis rats

OBJECTIVE:

To investigate the inhibitory effects of Pomegranate peel extracts (PPE) on experimental prostatitis rats.
METHODS:

The Prostatitis model was established by injection of carrageenan and Staphylococcus aureus in rat prostate. After 9 days' treatments of PPE, the rats were sacrificed for measurement of the number of white blood cell (WBC), the density of lecithin, the levels of Zn and malondialdehyde (MDA) of prostate. The antioxidant capacity was measured by oxygen radical absorbance capacity (ORAC) assay. The levels of NO and the activity of acid phosphatase (ACP) of plasma were also measured.
RESULTS:

PPE increased the levels of ORAC in plasma and the density of lecithin and the levels of Zn, decreased the levels of MDA of prostate and the activity of ACP and the number of WBC and adjusted the levels of NO in plasma compared with the prostatitis model group (P < 0.05 or P < 0.01).
CONCLUSION:

PPE can markedly improve the protective function of oxidation resistance, it may involve its regulatory action on anti-oxidation.

iwillbecured · � #85 � 05-04-2011, 06:55 AM

Men that suffer from prostatitis also tend to have low Zinc levels in their prostate. An injection into the prostate of rats that have prostatitis is able to decrease bacteria counts and inflammation of the prostate. In men with prostatitis their levels of zinc are 1/10 of a normal healthy prostate. Two things that I've found result in increased Zinc levels are; Pollen extract (not bee pollen) and pomegranate.

iwillbecured · � #86 � 05-04-2011, 09:00 AM

I found this study quite interesting...

Long-term antibiotic treatment of chronic bacterial prostatitis. Effect on bacterial flora.

Department of Urology and Andrology, University of Ume�, Sweden.

Abstract

The bacterial flora in patients referred with chronic bacterial prostatitis were studied. Only 13% had Gram-negative bacteria in significant numbers but 43% had Gram-positives using the same criteria. Half of the patients were symptom-free by the end of a 12-week course of antibiotics and remained so after 6 months; in one-third the symptoms were unchanged 6 months after completing treatment. The relief of symptoms correlated with the disappearance of white blood cells in the expressed prostatic secretion (EPS) and with a lowered pH in the EPS. Thus only 1 of the 14 patients without symptoms at 6 months had a significant growth of bacteria at the prostatic level, whereas 7 of 10 patients with unchanged symptoms had a significant bacterial colonisation. Although the initially infecting organism was eliminated in about half of the patients, new Gram-positive bacteria were isolated after treatment in 13 of 29 patients; 12 of these resolved spontaneously within 6 months. Five patients with Gram-positive bacteria were colonised with new Gram-negatives at the end of treatment. Two healed spontaneously but 3 remained colonised with Gram-negatives at the end of the follow-up period. These findings make it likely that many patients infected with Gram-positive bacteria benefit from antibiotic treatment. However, disturbances in the bacterial flora by antibiotic treatment may facilitate invasion by new types of bacteria

I wiil beat this · � #87 � 05-05-2011, 08:28 AM

Iwillbecured-

How do you feel today are u cured if so what do you think cured you??

lovelife · � #88 � 05-05-2011, 12:46 PM

Folks just started mms yesterday doing 20 drops a day and not feelling ill at all really is this a bad thing?

echosixnoble · � #89 � 05-05-2011, 01:56 PM

Well guys, I'm on day 31 of being on antibiotics and day 45 of just showering with only water and applying antifungal cream(lamisil in my case). Rash is about 97% gone, you have to really look to barely see it. Symptoms seem to be subsiding. Scrotum skin seems to be getting better as time passes, even though it is happening at a really slow pace. Main problems now are just burning and sagging in scrotum area and a little burning on the penis head every once in a while. Penis foreskin color seems to have returned to normal.

Yesterday, I decided to head south of the border for treatment to see if maybe the doctors over there had different theories or something, ya know, think outside the box. Well, I was the doc and told him what was going on and the doctor disagrees with the urologist about it being prostatitis, and to prove it he had a ultrasound done on my prostate and scrotum that same day. Seems like they found something in both my testicals though, idk what yet. I find out today in the evening. He also had blood work done and a urine sample to reassess the previous doctors notes and results. So far he's been the most thorough doctor I have been to. So far, I've only spent $160 on the doctor and testing. WOW!! I'm thinking I should've just gone over there the first time. I'm freaking out so bad, I'm trying to stay cool about it all. I'm scared that I might come out with HIV or something, even though I've already tested negative for it twice. I have to go back to the doc today to see my results and find out the treatment. This doc comes highly recommended by friends and family, so I hope to god that this has a happy ending. I'll keep you guys informed on what happened. Wish me luck.

echosixnoble · � #90 � 05-07-2011, 03:15 PM

Ok guys, so it turns out that everything is due to epididymitis, not prostatitis, how the urologist had said. Mex doc confirmed it with ultrasound and stated that it was epididymitis due to something else, I think its due to varices, I can't remember right now and I couldn't find it on the internet. My prostate was normal in ultrasound, and funny thing is that the symptoms were similar to prostate symptoms. Doc told me that yeah, the medical community pretty much has done a pretty sh-itty job on figuring things out in the male area and that he couldn't really give me an answer as to why I have this problem besides the regular mambo jambo and he wasn't going to try to b.s. me. That of which I respect. He said that although he doesn't know what causes this to happen, he does know how to fix it and with what was found in the ultrasound, it looks like I need surgery on my testicals to fix the problem and also that if I don't eventually do it, I'm going to become sterile. Not sure if that's such a bad thing... LOL. Supposably the surgery, which is an outpatient procedure should resolve my whole problem and that everything should return to its regular self. He gave me some meds to treat the problem for now and he said I should be okay with it but that I shouldn't delay the surgery for too long. One of the meds he gave me he said is not meant for treatment of this problem, but that in his experience it has some type of effect on treating the problem. I haven't taken the meds yet since I still have antibiotics and I want to finish them off. I'm at a loss right now, because I really feel that this is all due to an infection. I've had dry mouth and some redness in my eyes for a couple of months after this whole dilema started and I was starting to get chills and swollen lymph nodes, which is indicative of an infection, however, since I've started with the antibiotics, swollen lymph nodes and occasional chills are no more, and it seems that as time progresses and I keep taking the antibiotics, I've been getting better and all my symptoms seem to be subsiding. I theorize that my infection had been progressing up my urinary system resulting in the increasing symptoms. I keep wondering if I could get cured if I keep going on the antibiotic regiment for the next months, just like the doxy treatment. Doctor told me that it all is due to the epididymitis caused by the abnormalities in my testes which has resulted in stress on the body. He told me that the antibiotics can act as anti-inflammatories and that could be why I've been getting results. I'm not too sure about the whole thing to be honest. I want to believe the doc, I've gone to him since I've been 9 years old and so have family and other people I've known, he has rarely if ever been wrong on his diagnoses and he always tests for everything, and he is pretty much known for being an excellent doctor and in treating hard medical cases. If I ever trusted anyone in the medical field it would be him. He was pretty agitated about how irresponsible the whole medical community is over here in the states and about how they never performed any tests to confirm diagnosis, so he seems like he's pretty responsible about his work. But I still don't know. My urine test and blood tests came back normal and my HIV test negative.

He did an ultrasound of my whole urinary system and it did show some stuff on the testicles, which is what he wants to remove, and he also found that I have something wrong with one of my kidneys. I'm suppose to go back in 30 days for another test to figure out where the problem is in my kidney, but at least that can get fixed with meds I was told.

I'm not too sure about the surgery thing. I've looked on the internet and it looks like epididymitis can be treated with meds not necessarily surgery.

I'm curious to know what you guys think. I've been doing some research but haven't found anything conclusive on the matter so far.

I'll get more technical on the diagnosis later, and I'll list the meds and what the ultrasound states in my next post. I need to translate them to English and I'm in a bit of a rush right now. Hope you guys are getting some relief out there.

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