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It is my "Humble" opinion that MMS is the strongest antibiotic there is.
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NaClO2 activated by stomach acid.

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A Dietary Supplement



In view of all the scientific evidence available today, it is clear that an excellent oxygen ratio in the blood stream is a prime requirement for good health. Unlike hydrogen peroxide -- which was the forerunner to these newer oxygen-rich liquid supplements -- SO products hold the oxygen molecules in a stable molecular configuration that typically do not break apart when subjected to heat or sunlight.

Generally, the oxygen atoms are chemically bonded to chlorine salts, like sodium chloride (common table salt -- NaCl).
This combination of atoms usually forms chlorine dioxide compound, which is called " sodium chlorite" (NaClO2).

In order for the body to access the O2 molecule, the sodium chlorite molecule is broken apart by stomach acid releasing the oxygen so that it may be absorbed into the blood stream through the stomach and intestinal linings. This decomposition of the chlorite molecule is quite rapid and the absorption relatively effective.


The current literature explains that nutritional supplements made of stabilized oxygen can be either dissolved molecules of oxygen, (in various molecular configurations including O1, O2, O3, O4, etc.,) or bio-available oxygen molecules electrically bound to numerous salts. These oxygen salts include magnesium, potassium and sodium provided their molecular bonds are easily weakened so that the oxygen molecules may be absorbed by the body into the blood stream.

The literature further explains that stabilized oxygen may be in either liquid or dry forms provided that in the dry form the oxygen molecules may be easily and readily made available to the body.

Many oxygen supplements use oxychlorine or hypo-chloride compounds to stabilize the oxygen molecules. These compounds include chlorite (ClO2) and chlorate (ClO3). There is evidence to indicate that chlorite and chlorate may indeed release oxygen in its nascent form as O2 into the body as these ions are broken down during the digestive process by hydrochloric acid (HCl) in the stomach.

The first stabilized oxygen supplements were developed by Dr. William F. Koch, M.D., Ph.D. These chlorine dioxide-based liquid solutions.

Hydrogen peroxide (H2O2) has also been called a stabilized oxygen supplement. Food grade hydrogen peroxide has been used in various formulations. While it is true that the oxygen atoms of hydrogen peroxide have been "bound" to the hydrogen atoms to form a quasi-stabilized molecule, hydrogen peroxide is not stable in its electro-chemical binding, as are traditional oxy-halogen nutritional compounds like the chlorite products on the market today. Hydrogen peroxide easily decomposes when subjected to heat and ultraviolet rays (sunlight). PetResearch
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I am no longer selling MMS.

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My MMS experience.
But first:
Like many I have been following the interesting discussions here and other places. Of course there were always a few of the typical noisy negatives types that demand to see double, triple, quadruple etc etc blind testing be done. Naturally these test must only be done by some imaginary company is totally honest and would never ever consider fudging the results. Not willing to wait for that to happen, so for better or worse, I rely on the unthinkable. I use my own common good sense. Now I realize that some many find this startling and hard to believe that I do not require someone else to tell me what to think. As I am quite willing and able to think for myself and will accept whatever the results maybe, but then that is the way I work.

Being that this is a relatively unknown procedure, the majority of what we do know about it comes from Jim H’s book. He was amazed by the fact that not only did it work, but how quickly it worked! This then lead to his years of testing and the step by step, bit by bit improving the procedure. As problems come up changes were made and this process is still going on.

Thus after reading the book cover to cover you are left with one of two conclusions. Jim H is the either worlds greatest con artist and this is nothing but a giant scam making him an incredibly small amount of money OR it is a true and factual account of what he has been doing all these years. My take is that this is way to much work just to be a scam.

With that in mind I decided to buy a bottle to have on hand just in case I might need it.
This was towards the end of the third week in September when I ordered the bottle from Arrowwind, being that I was in good health I told her no rush was needed. WRONG! Seems the very next day I came down with the flu or maybe food poisoning, not sure which, but there was no question that I was sicker then a dog for that entire weekend. Literally every muscle in the body painfully ached when required to move. Only relief was to lie perfectly still and not move. A turtle lying on its back had more options then I did. When the need arose to go to the bathroom this was 15-20 minutes of pain trying to slowly work my way up to a sitting position. Standing and walking (a slow wobbly shuffle) was also interesting. Sunday evening whatever this was departed as quickly as it came.

I was now able to move around in a more or less normal manner, but I was totally worn out and had no energy.

Wednesday expecting MMS to arrive today. (it does late in the afternoon) That morning go to local HF store try to buy some critic acid they have everything but it. Go to second local HF store they are not open yet. Continue to more distance HF store yes they carry it, but they are temporarily out of stock. Nice store though. This is first time in it, has lots of neat stuff.

Continue onto one of my clients and help him solve some assembly problems and on way back stop at the second HF store, it is now open. They don’t have any but will order it and should have it Friday.

It is now Thursday. I still have a few lingering aches and pains from last weekend ordeal plus a slight cough. So even though I do not have the critic acid yet I do have vinegar. So I guess is time to boldly go where someone has gone before. Will maybe not too boldly I will start out at 2 drops. (OK who is making that chicken clucking sound out there?)

Day one: Did not notice any extreme reaction. Although was tired and listless all day, not sure if it is cause and effect or just coincidence. Also do not like the taste of vinegar.

Day two: No reaction. Not quite as tired as yesterday still have slight cough. (In the past when ever I have had a cold within a week or less the typical cold symptoms will have departed with the exception of the coughing part always seems to linger on forever. So I’m curious if MMS will have an effect here.)
Also, most definitely, do not like the taste of vinegar! However my critic acid arrived today.

Day three: No reaction to the MMS. No other changes since yesterday.
Used the critic acid in place of vinegar, not the greatest taste but much, much nicer.

Day four: Throwing caution to the wind I went to a 3 drop mixture. Still no reaction to MMS. Maybe very slight diarrhea, but not enough to cause any problems at all. Probable not even related to the MMS.

Day five: Up to 4 drops today. No reaction. All aches and pains from last weeks ordeal appear to be gone. Only thing remaining is the persistent cough.

Day six. Same as yesterday.

Day seven: Up to six drops no reaction.

Day eight: More the same.

Day eight: still more of the same

Day nine: Up to 8 drops. Had big garage sale last two days got rid of lots of useless stuff but not the persistent cough.

Day ten: Up to 10 drops.
Day eleven: Persistent cough still hanging on.

So in conclusion I think that it is now safe to say that MMS is not very good as a cough medicine. Of course I did start out at a very low dosage and slowly worked up, but still I did not notice any reaction either good or bad. Well the taste could be better but I have been using water rather then a fruit juice. Also I am wondering if I had MMS available to take at the beginning of this “cold” if the results might have been different. Although I have no plans or desire to retest this in the immediate future.
I do not expect MMS will work on every problem and if this is typical of areas where it will not work I would not consider that to be a serious failure.
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Iggy, one of the other differenes between the stabilized oxygen products you provided link to is how they are used. Jim Humble discovered that the sodium chlorite is much more effective when activiated with an acid solution like a vinegar that is 5% acidic or lime or lemon juice. So aside from differences in strength there is this activation issue. Also Cost! Typical activated oxygen to use at very effective dose would be very expensive.

His sodium chlorite is so cheap that it will encourage people to try it! He says that one bottle will last an average family a couple of years. So if you were really sick say with lyme which he says takes about a year of work you might use, and I'm only guessing, 4 to 6 bottles.
My point in posting this veterinarian article was because the author agreed with Skep that stomach acid will activate sodium chlorite.

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I changed my name on the blog because I've decided that I don't want my name, and yes, Arrowwind is my name, although not legal name, all over the net any more. Taking it off the blog will reduce exposure significantly. Since this MMS thing the blog is getting almost 200 hits a day, mostly related to MMS from all over the world. On the front page there is a button called geovisitors. click on that and you can see where people log on from and then click on one of the red balloons and you will cruise across an amazing world map to exactly where they live!
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Madscientist - I gave mms to both of my boys when I first got it. They were down and out sick - glued to the sofa sick... mom do this for me and that for me sick, moaning groaning sick.

Gave it in the AM ( 6 drops) and in about 4 hours son number one was out boarding and the other just plain disappeared to somewhere. But their cough remained for about a week.

The next day son number one got up and gave himself 21 drops or so before he went to work. He wasn't sure exactly how much. He was sorry.
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Cough is a symptom. Maybe from damage on the respiratory tract, and the continued secretions during healing. It does not necessarily mean that the pathogen is still there (though it's still possible).

Another possibility is that the respiratory tract is not in direct contact with the circulation, so the MMS may not be reaching it as with other parts of the body. (Would an aerator administration solve this?) The pathogens (flu virus?) in the rest of the body, could be killed, though. It would explain quick "recovery" but persistence of cough.

Just something to think about.

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Old 10-17-2007, 04:57 AM
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Sniffing colloidal silver with a smidgen of H2O2 helps me stop incipient
colds & flu at first sign of sore throat or sneezing. Haven't tried it for cough.
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Cough is a symptom. Maybe from damage on the respiratory tract, and the continued secretions during healing. It does not necessarily mean that the pathogen is still there (though it's still possible).

Another possibility is that the respiratory tract is not in direct contact with the circulation, so the MMS may not be reaching it as with other parts of the body. (Would an aerator administration solve this?) The pathogens (flu virus?) in the rest of the body, could be killed, though. It would explain quick "recovery" but persistence of cough.
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Considering my past experiences with colds and coughs I am inclined to agree.
Still it was worth giving MMS a try as it is the best way to find out.
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NO DAMAGE AT ALL TO THE TOWEL.
This is exactly the same ratio that I use when I injest MMS.(1:5)
CONCLUSION: MMS is NOT bleach.
Funny, I have bleach marks all over my favorite Jeans now. Can't remember if this was from the activated product or just straight MMS before activation. Probably before activation.
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NO DAMAGE AT ALL TO THE TOWEL.
This is exactly the same ratio that I use when I injest MMS.(1:5)
CONCLUSION: MMS is NOT bleach.
Funny,
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I have bleach marks all over my favorite Jeans now.
Can't remember if this was from the activated product or just straight MMS before activation. Probably before activation.
I never tried the experiment with denim, but would be willing to bet that full strength MMS would cause fading. Perhaps even activated MMS may cause fading, however, I doubt that once the water or juice is added, the solution would be much to weak to do any damage, exept to pathogens.
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I just tried it!

One drop on “blue Jean Denim”, no effect.
One drop activated with citric acid on “blue Jean Denim”, no effect.
One drop activated with citric acid mixed with water on blue Jean Denim”, no effect.

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What??
You mean - it's NOT bleach - gasp!
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D and I have taken more days than we should, to reach 10 drops! I had an ophthalmic emergency occasioned by being the one in 200 who reacts badly to local anesthetic proxymetacaine, so there were several days when I could not count drops.
Back on track now, and D wants to go back down to 9 drops, having reached his effective dose of 10 drops yesterday.
however, in the past couple of hours he has been complaining of fatigue, headache and sudden chills and feverishness. We assume he has "caught something"
I shall document any changes here.
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