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Old 06-23-2011, 01:16 PM
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Using flagyl for prostatitis is probably not a good bet.

Effect of Garlic on Vancomycin-Resistant Enterococci
The MIC of vancomycin for VRE decreased from 32 to 256 μg/ml without garlic to 0.5 to 16 μg/ml in the presence of garlic (1,000 to 2,000 μg/ml) or allicin (8 to 16 μg/ml).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC89616/

Look how much garlic and allicin decreased the amount of antibiotic needed!

(MIC = minimum inhibitory concentration).
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Using flagyl for prostatitis is probably not a good bet.

Effect of Garlic on Vancomycin-Resistant Enterococci
The MIC of vancomycin for VRE decreased from 32 to 256 μg/ml without garlic to 0.5 to 16 μg/ml in the presence of garlic (1,000 to 2,000 μg/ml) or allicin (8 to 16 μg/ml).
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC89616/

Look how much garlic and allicin decreased the amount of antibiotic needed!

(MIC = minimum inhibitory concentration).
your article shows

decreased from 32 to 256 μg/ml without garlic to 0.5 to 16 μg/ml in the presence of garlic (1,000 to 2,000 μg/ml) or allicin (8 to 16 μg/ml). The FICs (<0.5) indicated a synergistic effect between the compounds

so how much is 1,000 to 2,000 μg/ml or allicin (8 to 16 μg/ml)

so how many milligrams we talking ? how man ug/,l = a milligram ???
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Using flagyl for prostatitis is probably not a good bet.
I wouldn't rule it out, there is evidence that some prostatitis may be caused by trichomonas.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2533556/

I have read some reports that make a connection with trich and prostate cancer. Trich is hard to diagnose in men, and is a very comon std. I would and have took a week course of flagyl just to rule it out, or get rid of it incase it was there.

It did not relief my symptoms however
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took 11 days of trimethoprim so far......... but update:

my immune system has increased some how. I usually fall asleep around 9-10 pm
because I am so wore out. and I always fall asleep in the middle of the day for 1-2 hours. also when I get my dog water from faucet outside .very big metal water bowl and my hands will shake because they are weak and can barley carry that bowl///

I just noticed how these things have not happened since this monday...I no longer nap in the middle of the day and my hands don't shake picking up the water bowl anymore. I have gotten some strength back...and I'm staying up late
my time now is 2:49 am...

everything else is the exact same with no improvement but I am getting stronger immune wise. for ever I felt like a zombie....
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The week of Flagyl lefted me very close to symptom free I stiil had a small feeling something was there but I could pee and no back pain or pelvic / lower ab pain I was still peeing a lot. Today I'll start the new meds as my allicinmax should be here today
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Just curious - would love to see a show of hands for whoever is taking the Trim without the Sulfa. I started the Trim/Sulfa combo 8 days ago (after a month of Cipro) and started getting a rash a few days ago. It sounds like the Uro doesn't want to prescribe Trim without the Sulfa and would want to prescribe something else instead.

The thing is I'm doing really well on this combo and feeling so much better. I feel like I'm finally beating this and don't want to switch to another antibiotic.
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There's no clinical evidence that in vivo there is any added benefit to prescribing the sulfa with trim. Here in the UK doctors only use trimethoprim. You should read this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trimethoprim

"rimethoprim was commonly (since 1969 in the UK) used in a 1:5 combination with sulfamethoxazole, a sulfonamide antibiotic, which inhibits an earlier step in the folate synthesis pathway (see diagram below). This combination, also known as co-trimoxazole, TMP-sulfa, or TMP-SMX, results in an in vitro synergistic antibacterial effect by inhibiting successive steps in folate synthesis. This claimed benefit was not seen in general clinical use.[3][4] The combinations use has been declining due to reports of sulfamethoxazole bone marrow toxicity, resistance and lack of greater efficacy in treating common urine and chest infections,[5][6][7][8] and side effects of antibacterial sulfonamides. As a consequence, the use of co-trimoxazole was restricted in 1995 [9] following the availability of trimethoprim (not in combination) in 1980."
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Just curious - would love to see a show of hands for whoever is taking the Trim without the Sulfa. I started the Trim/Sulfa combo 8 days ago (after a month of Cipro) and started getting a rash a few days ago. It sounds like the Uro doesn't want to prescribe Trim without the Sulfa and would want to prescribe something else instead.

The thing is I'm doing really well on this combo and feeling so much better. I feel like I'm finally beating this and don't want to switch to another antibiotic.
benadryl can be used to help with allergic reactions you can by benadryl pills. be warned benadryl when combined with sulfa drug will make you very weak and tired it will knock you on your a$$.

depending how bad and where the rash is going. do you think you could tough the sulfamethoxazole/trimethoprim out ? I will tell you this with prostatitis once it reaches the chronic level for most individuals it is very hard to find a drug that will treat the prostatitis because most antibiotics will fail time and time again. if you can tough the sulfa drug out do so unless it has become a danger to you

for me sulfa drug would cause skin of penis to swell up like a mushroom.and the head of penis would swell a bit and turn red and itch really bad. then the penis would start to bust and bleed and it turned from red to purple to a blackish color in just a few days.

I can remember taking it as a kid 7 days for infections and it would never turn my penis purple then black. it would turn it red and itch. some how I am more allergic to sulfamethoxazole than I was when I was younger.

i wish I could take the sulfa but can't so im taking just the trim
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HarryCrumb - I'm not sure if I can tough it out. I am trying but it seems to be a little bit worse every day (not the itching - but the rash comes out a little more every day). I just started the Zyrtec so we'll see if that works.

It's like I can't get lucky - I take like 5 weeks of Cipro with no problems but not enough relief - now a few days of this stuff and I'm getting a rash and yet I'm feeling so much better down there.

iwillbecured - I hear what you are saying -- maybe I'll print out something for the Doc to see cause it really sounded like he would not prescribe the Trim without the Sulfa.

Will keep posted.

FYI - I'm also taking the Quercetin/Bromelain Combo as well as Allicin and a few other supplements but been taking them for a while so I think it's the Sulfa
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Im no doc and I really dont understand half this sh*t Im reading with out a dictionary but what I do know is the flagyl had me feeling close so close to cured my doc says he wont prescribe without knowing I have trich. Im thinking it not trich Im thinking it could be the same bacteria that causes bv since flagyl is what is prscribe for BV and it seems to work for me I think I just need a longer stronger dose of this not just seven days as it has been in me a very long time, I guess I will just take this what he gave me for now my wife has an appt monday maybe when she talks to her doc she can tell them about her BV coming back all the time and also my prostate issues and my thoughts on it
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Iwillbecured this is my new everyday reg
Vit D3
Bromelain-600 gdu/gram 5oo mg-3 times
pharmacaceutical grade L arginine -1000mg twice
quercetin-500mg also has bromelain -50mg vit c 1,250mg 3 times
allicinmax- two pills -3 times
sulfamethox/tmp 800/160 ds twice

How does this sound
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hi boots.

i wake up with no pain at all and than after bowl movement the symptoms start.

it usually starts about 1 to 2 hours after bowl movement.

also i have clear fluid sometimes after bowl movement. this is prostate fluid i think.

it seems we have similar symptoms
yeah this is common with the prostatitis after a bowel movement. after a bowel movement my a-hole burns and hurts and my back hurts and burns more same with testicles. when the crap comes down out of you its gonna bump against the rectum wall and probably flare it up a little bit. I'm almost afraid to let any doctor even do a dre on me. because it hurts so bad and any time any doctor even touches my prostate symptoms start getting worse. ((( also i have clear fluid sometimes after bowl movement. this is prostate fluid i think.))) it's possible or could be a sign of an STD but I don't know your sexual history or if you were battling an STD and ended up with prostatitis. But it would be either some kind of pus from an STD or some prostate fluid
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do you guys think if I been takeing these meds for one day and I stoped for a couple of days when I start it again it will be useless because the bateria has become resistant......I was thinking of quiting til monday to see what my wife's doc says
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Guys I do believe I am now facing a wall my symptoms have got better but all the abx do is agrivate things.I still think trim is the right drug but my prostate is so badly infested wih infection the bugs will always win.
I had a very bad night last night .There is nothing I can do.
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