Men should NEVER take an iron supplement. No way to get rid of iron, unless donating blood.

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Just seen Mr Williams massage site and the recomended dose is around 15oz of silver water per day .
Just waiting for my massage tool to arive then I can start the silver after a week.
Also the allicin started working again today, so it seems massage is the way to go with something to kill the bugs.
Obviously what is happening to me is the stuff is not getting into the prostate enough to kill it all off and not the bugs are resistant to allican.
I hope I dont seem to be talking just about myself just sharing my experiance in the hope that I will cure myself and help others.

Hi lovelife, welcome to the forum! What you're doing is excellent, sharing what you're doing and what's going on with you is what it's all about, and benefits everyone. I hope that the exchange of treatments here results in relief from this condition for yourself and others on the board.

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Thanks for that kind2creatures.

Hey love life, It was kind of trippy to the threads you posted here. The symptoms you describe here are exactly what I heard a couple years ago from a chinese herbal medicine doctor.

I did not have the same symptoms but the Chinese herbal doctor was insisting those symptoms with bad English, he had medicine for what you have, I am pretty sure.

He had two versions , some herbal medicine you boil and drink that looked like something out of a witch craft movie, and a shot directly into your urethra if the first treatment didn't work.

I think it would be worthwhile to contact an Asian friend that knows where to get Chinese herbal medicine.

Like any medical care providers their are good and bad ones, if you have trouble finding the stuff I am talking about, I would be happy to get his number for you.

Thanks for that puresong are you in the uk.

No I am in the USA, I will call the doctor, I will buy the herbs, its like 20 bucks and ask him what they all are, there are like 20 different herbs in their. If I cant figure out what they are I will take a picture of it and you can show it to a chinese doctor. Most chinese md's from china know what they are.
It is part of their education to become doctors in china.
I will try my best but dont wait for me try to find a good Chinese herbal medicine doctor, if you go to a chinese herbal medicine story you can ask if they have a doctor on call and make an appointment.
Its very cheap and if it cures you after drinking a few gross drinks That will be awesome!

Its not expensive if you make it yourself. I have read lots of things, I have read that take from 1oz to 16oz or more a day when trying to cure something.

I would be very interested in this to, please do give as much info as possible.


Lovelife, I just bought a silvergen, from what I have read, they are suspose to make a good product. You can make any where from 5ppm to 20 with it. I have a batch cooking right now, I'll let you know how it turns out.

Puresong that would be great if you could do that.I tried a chinese herbal about 8 years ago but it was something you boiled up a and rubbed on your genitels did not do any thing.Something oraly is going to be be better.
What are your symptoms puresong?
I got my massage tool yesterday at last and I have to say I have used it once and things all ready feel better.I have also been to see my gp and managed to get a ab called clarithromycin wich cleared it for about a week in the late 90s.The one thing is I did not have enough knowledge about my problem needing to massage the prostate often and also regular ejaculation helps me a lot so together with this ab and allicin and massage I will see what happens.
For a 14 day course of silver water it is going to cost me around �200 sterling so that is going to be the last one for me.

Sorry puresong you are cured.......................

You should be able to buy a generator for less than 200. Even if it doesn't work for our problem, I think they are still a great thing to have.

I will stop their next week when I am in San Diego. Yeah love life I am done with symptoms but it was pretty much debilitating pain in prostate lower back and urethra, pain after ejaculation, no orgasms! depression, low libido (which I think had something to do with depressions effect on testosterone production.

also I couldn't sit down for long periods of time without the pain getting out of hand, was hard to sleep too.

I used to feel the pain all the way down into my toes, or atleast extreem discomfort, did anyone else experience this?

yes that is like mune. i had twice issues antibiotics knocked it out. i had no pain. then after cipro for 8 weeks and riding a bike a lot i fell severe. i was overwhelmed with pain. my feet at times, the back of my upper thigh, lower back, perineum real bad, my scrotum and penis were cold like ice and my urethra was on fire if it didnt feel like broken glass was in it. the pain in the testes was like just recieving a charlie brown punt to them. my stomach was also sore and still is. i have pain just below the belly button and shooting out like a V from the pelvis. i often felt naussea and flu like. i lost a lot of hair on my head. since starting the mms i this the hair loss is slowing down. its been over a year for me but since october 31st fro my severe case. i feel it is getting better. i was in bed for 3 weeks looking like i was poisoned and the thoughts of suicide have left. IMPORTANT for anybody going through what i did. so important that those kind gents (brothers) shared positive stories with us. i was soul less and thought this was my life. my doctor the head of the dept was useless and still is, the other forums were full of anger and i had nobody to respond, help or advice to share.

anybody that beats this will be a strong man after.

i believe the mms is helping my body and i hope it will speed up the process in the prostate. i again promote massage as it gets me going and gives some comfort for a while. not fun but worth it. with treatment of medicine it is better than medicine alone. it was more painful at first and the discharge was more toxic or germ filled at first but after 2 months it is less and less. dont give up on it. i did but am happy to be back on it. i have read that in the east it is part of a body massage. we in the west are just closed minded. even in bed in agony i refused. we prostatitis sufferers will due just about anything if it gets bad enough.

my libido has gone back up i think because each massage shinks the inflammed prostate.

cialus i think might be good. just a theory. it promotes blood flow right? wouldnt that help along with massage exercise?

Not a lot of pain down my legs and back.My pain is mostly at the end of my penis testis and massive amounts of pressure around the whole area.The funny thing is sittting for long periods has never been a problem for me.
Puresong that would be great if you could that.I hope its not a problem for you..
I have to say this massage thing is not the best thing I have done in my life lol but I can see why you need to do it.
Helpmyp .Have you cleared it with cipro you say.It never touched mine.Wich abs have you had?