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Pinballdoc... I am not as familiar with colloidal silver as I could or should be. How do you think is does for systemic candida? Ive never read any reports on its use for this. If you had systemic candida would you do it orally, emema? by IV?


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I was wondering the same about Colloidal Silver...can anyone provide more info on how to do this?

It doesn't matter what protocolyou follow for systemic yeast infection, nothing will work unless you go on a phase one diet. This will starve the yeast while you also kill it with colloidal silver, MMS, or other antifungals. This diet can be seen at www.knowthecause.com under frequently asked questions section.

It is my opinion that colloidal silver, at a strength of 15-20 parts per million, taken orally once per day (2 to 4 ounces) will not harm the beneficial bacteria. This is based on the theory that good bacteria has a thicker cell wall than bad bacteria, and also may have something to do with the good bacteria being more alkaline. In any event, I've been using colloidal silver daily for years now. I haven't turned blue, haven't had a flu or even a cold, and have had no stomach/intestinal issues.

*I do recommend taking a good probiotic every day just in case..

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I have one question: Is MMS effective for oxidizing metals? There seems to be some controversy over this.
There will always be controversy, however, according to Jim Humble, MMS does oxidize heavy metals, and I have so far seen no evidence to dispute this. However, I would also include Chlorella, Spirulina, Apple pectin, etc that can all be found in one good concentrated greens powder product.

I would also make absolutely sure I was getting all 90 necessary vitamins and minerals on a daily basis, since being deficient in any of these can cause every symptom you described in your first post.

Being deficient will set your body up for an infection, whether it be viral, bacterial, or fungal.

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I looked all over the knowthecause website and could not find the FAQ link. Could u post it?

My Chiro wants me to start chlorella and citrus pectin capsules after I get to the TID dose of MMS. He doesnt want me to detox too fast and/or start too much at once.

One question I have relating to poor liver function: I know that glutathione, cysteine, and methionine are important and often lacking in those with poor liver function. Is it best to take just l-glutathione or would a glutathione booster like this one (https://www.iherb.com/Carlson-Labs-Gl...les/14237?at=1) be better?
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This following product will do it. Generally pure gluathione is not well absorbed by the intestional tract. But this product in the way that it is forumulated should do you well. I would assume that this would be a short term course of application, a few months as you go through your detox process therefore the cost is temporary. Livonlabs has been a leader in liposomal preparations and in understanding the science behind it. I suspect someday most nutrients will be in this form.

https://www.iherb.com/LivOn-Laborator...ach/25232?at=0


Jarrow whey, one dose a day, taken on a daily basis will boost your glutathione and is a good long term strategy. It is a qualtiy product
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Thanks, Arrowwind!

Is that product something I should take DURING or AFTER mms? The product discription says it is a major antioxidant, which would neutralize mms.

What is your opinion of this product:
https://www.readisorb.com/readisorb_l...utathione.html

The above product was suggested by a friend, who says it's very potent, thus u need to start slow (with 8-10 drops under the tongue once per day and increase).
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Jarrow whey, one dose a day, taken on a daily basis will boost your glutathione and is a good long term strategy. It is a qualtiy product
Unfortunately, I cannot do whey protein.... any form of dairy does not sit well with me. I do Nutribiotic Rice Protein Powder (2 scoops at a time) 2-3x per day.
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I am not familiar with that product but it looks OK. I dont see a problem off hand.

MMS is active in the body for about 2 hours. Schedule your antioxidants at bedtime, say around 10pm, with your last dose of mms at 8pm. Or if you tend to get up in the middle of the night take them then. Anti oxidants will stay in the body longer than mms. It is not clear that ALL antioxidants will affect mms. It all just depends on how they work chemically. Certainly the antioxidants we get in food is not deteriorating mms for the most part.
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https://www.knowthecause.com/FindInfo...-One-Diet.aspx

I vividly recall my early days on the then nameless, “horrible, rotten, restrictive diet.” Even though expert nutritionists cautioned me about eating the “too fattening” avocado and “cholesterol raising” eggs, I had learned that fungus disliked these foods and at the time, I just wanted to control this overgrowth of fungus that I thought I had. If these experts were correct, heck I could always run off my avocado induced weight and find an antidote for high cholesterol! Of course, 35 years later, we know that avocados and eggs are absolutely fine to eat in most instances.

Many people on this diet find that their health elevates to a level where both they and their doctors are amazed at how good they feel! This can either be chalked up to food hypersensitivity or starving of the fungus that was responsible for the symptoms in the first place. Either way, many are living better because of this breakthrough approach to eating. In 2005, I wrote a recipe book entitled Eating Your Way to Good Health, that included recipes developed through the years that made this diet easier to follow.

The book has been yet another hit because it enabled those who chose to make this diet more permanent a feast instead of a chore! I have learned that some people simply cannot afford the books with the diet in them and for this reason I have decided to simply publish the foods that are OK to eat on this diet in an effort to help everyone coming to our website:

EGGS
FRUIT, berries, grapefruit, lemon, lime, green apples, avocado, fresh coconut
MEATS, virtually all meat including fish, poultry and beef
VEGETABLES, Most fresh, unblemished vegetables and freshly made vegetable juice
BEVERAGES, bottled or filtered water, non-fruity herbal teas, stevia sweetened fresh lemonade or limeade, freshly squeezed carrot juice (see below)
VINEGAR, apple cider vinegar
OILS, olive, grape, flax seed, cold pressed virgin coconut oil
NUTS, raw nuts, including pecans, almonds, walnuts, cashews, and pumpkin seeds. Stored nuts tend to gather mold, so be careful!
SWEETENERS, Stevia, Stevia Plus, birch tree extracted Xylitol
DAIRY, Organic Butter, Organic Yogurt, (use the following very sparingly) cream cheese, unsweetened whipping cream, real sour cream.
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I took a close look at the glutathione booster you provided in the link above.

It seems to be a very good product. It contains alpha lipoic acid, n-acetyl cysteine, sulfur, milk thistle, vitamin E, vitamin C, selenium, vitamin B2, l-glycine, and l-glutamine.

Two capsules would be the bare minimum per serving, (I would double that) and the price is quite high, however, 180 capsules would last awhile, and alot of good ingredients.

And as stated above by Arrow, glutathione is poorly absorbed unless it is in its reduced form, thus the need for alpha lipoic acid and n-acetyl cysteine. I would also add grape seed extract to the mix.
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[/B]EGGS
FRUIT, berries, grapefruit, lemon, lime, green apples, avocado, fresh coconut
MEATS, virtually all meat including fish, poultry and beef
VEGETABLES, Most fresh, unblemished vegetables and freshly made vegetable juice
BEVERAGES, bottled or filtered water, non-fruity herbal teas, stevia sweetened fresh lemonade or limeade, freshly squeezed carrot juice (see below)
VINEGAR, apple cider vinegar
OILS, olive, grape, flax seed, cold pressed virgin coconut oil
NUTS, raw nuts, including pecans, almonds, walnuts, cashews, and pumpkin seeds. Stored nuts tend to gather mold, so be careful!
SWEETENERS, Stevia, Stevia Plus, birch tree extracted Xylitol
DAIRY, Organic Butter, Organic Yogurt, (use the following very sparingly) cream cheese, unsweetened whipping cream, real sour cream.

Thanks for listing this. I tried a grain-free diet before and lost a bunch of wt (I'm already underweight, so that's not good).

What is the typical carb:fatrotein ratio/% of this diet? That's where my problem was, I believe: My ratios were not adequate.

Pinballdoc: Do u eat like this? Can u list what a typical day looks like for u?

My doc says that I don't need to alter my diet bc the MMS will effectively kill the candida by itself.

My problem is that I have gastroparesis and food intolerances (on top of everything else), so diet has always been my hang up. I literally don't know what/how to eat any more cuz I react to everything and/or it makes the gastroparesis worse.

Here is a typical day for me:

1. 4oz homemade greens juice (cucumber, spinach, celery, cilantro...)
1 Food for Life Brown Rice Tortilla
1 TB organic almond butter + 2 TB Rice Protein powder

2. Food for Life brown rice tortilla
3oz chicken breast
1/2c steamed veggies, romaine, carrots

3. brown rice cake + 1 TB almond butter + 2 TB rice protein powder

4. Same as meal 2

5. 2 jumbo soft boiled eggs + 4oz green juice

My Chiro’s plan for me is this:
-NAET for emotional trauma
-MMS + chlorella and pectin
-IV EDTA to further help with the meal removal
-homeopathic yeast killers and metal chelators
-rebuilding the body, supporting the glands/liver/flora

Does this sound good? I know I need to also take glutathione…would this be something to take DURING MMS or after?
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I tried a grain-free diet before and lost a bunch of wt (I'm already underweight, so that's not good).
The lack of grains is replaced with complex carbs, that break down slowly, and are taken with fibre.

Grains are not allowed on the phase one diet because most are contaminated with several varieties of fungi, which is something you don't want if you are fighting a fungal infection. Most grains now are grown with GMO, which is another very good reason to avoid them. Then there is the problem with gluten.


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What is the typical carb:fatrotein ratio/% of this diet? That's where my problem was, I believe: My ratios were not adequate.
protein, fat, and "complex" carbs won't make you fat, sugar does.

Sugar, high fructose corn syrup, and artificial sweeteners make people fat.

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Pinballdoc: Do u eat like this?
Not exactly. I do eat some processed food as well as some simple carbs such as cookies, however, not often, just when I get a craving for cookies or a chocolate bar.


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My doc says that I don't need to alter my diet bc the MMS will effectively kill the candida by itself.
I don't understand your doctor. First he is smart enough to let you use MMS, but silly enough to think you can kill candida while feeding it sugar,etc.

It might work, however, it would take a very long time as opposed to attacking the yeast problem with MMS and diet changes that would allow the yeast to starve.


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Does this sound good?
Your diet seems better than most, especially the green juice. However, I would still add spirulina, wheat grass juice powder, and make sure I was getting all the essential vitamins and minerals.
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I know I need to also take glutathione…would this be something to take DURING MMS or after?
You could take the MMS in the morning, and again around 6 pm if you are going to do it twice per day. You can take the glutathione booster anytime during the day, as long as it is 2 hours before or 2 hours after taking the MMS.

I would also suggest a good high dose multistrain probiotic before bed, every day for the rest of your life.
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The only grains I eat are Food for Life Brown Rice Tortillas and Organic Brown Rice Cakes. I cannot digest whole/unprocessed grains, and I am gluten-intolerant and allergic to buckwheat and other grains....except rice.

I avoid ALL sugars and do not eat fruit. I haven't eaten fruit in years bc I am severely fructose intolerant....same goes with dairy (lactose-intolerant and casein allergy).

Again, the only carbs I do are the FFL Brown Rice Tortillas and Organic Rice Cakes. I get about 120-150g carbs per day (that includes the carbs from veggies, nuts, green juices...).

I want to know how to eat a healing/healthy diet, but it's hard when my body only tolerates a limited variety of foods....and the gastroparesis is getting worse by the day.

How would u tweak the diet I posted to be more healing/healthy and candida-killing?

As for the vitamins: I take a multivitamin, plus extra D3, Mag, B12 shots, and digestive enzymes, HCl, EFAs (fish oil), Vit C, thyroid and adrenal supplements....

I also take 25 billion CFUs of a 12-strain probiotic (Klaire Labs) in the AM and 100 Billion CFUs again in the evening with aloe juice.

As for the spirulina and wheat grass: I muscle-tested very weak on green powders, and ALCAT testing said I was highly intolerant to spirulina. However, I will be taking chlorella and citrus pectin while detoxifying with MMS and when doing the metals. I also drink distilled water with chlorophyll.
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The only grains I eat are Food for Life Brown Rice Tortillas and Organic Brown Rice Cakes. I cannot digest whole/unprocessed grains, and I am gluten-intolerant and allergic to buckwheat and other grains....except rice.
I would reasonably assume this to be due to vaccinations, and would suggest no more vaccines of any kind, ever. That includes tetanas shots.

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I avoid ALL sugars and do not eat fruit. I haven't eaten fruit in years bc I am severely fructose intolerant....same goes with dairy (lactose-intolerant and casein allergy).
I agree with being dairy free, however, fruit is very important because they contain nutrients that not only protect from disease, they also repair damaged DNA. If you can't eat fruit, then by all means take in concentrated fruit powders, that contain phytochemicals but don't contain sugar or fructose. These have been removed so they can be used by diabetics, etc.

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Again, the only carbs I do are the FFL Brown Rice Tortillas and Organic Rice Cakes. I get about 120-150g carbs per day (that includes the carbs from veggies, nuts, green juices...).
You have to get energy from somewhere, and I can't see how your diet can supply you with any energy, thus the need for B12 shots?


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How would u tweak the diet I posted to be more healing/healthy and candida-killing?
You need energy or you will be tired all the time. That means more nutrients, but not necessarily more calories.

To help kill candida you could drink white or red (rooibos) tea. Add a drop or two of clove oil, which is a super antioxidant. You could also use organic olive oil, coconut oil, oregano oil, etc in your diet.
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As for the vitamins: I take a multivitamin, plus extra D3, Mag, B12 shots, and digestive enzymes, HCl, EFAs (fish oil), Vit C, thyroid and adrenal supplements....
The multi won't do you much good unless it is made from whole food rather than cheap synthetic fractions. The Mg should be from citrate so it can easily be absorbed, the vitamin C has to be a large enough amount to be of any value and must be taken in divided doses throughout the day with bioflavonoids.

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I also drink distilled water with chlorophyll.
I'm glad you didn't say tap water, however, you need minerals, and there are no minerals in distilled water. Without mineral cofactors, vitamins won't work, and speaking about minerals, check out some youtube videos on Dr. Joel Wallach, he knows alot about minerals, which, by the way, may be the reason for most of your health issues.
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I would reasonably assume this to be due to vaccinations, and would suggest no more vaccines of any kind, ever. That includes tetanas shots.

I don't do vaccines anymore. I had them as a kid, of course, but haven't had any since then. Why would my poor digestion be due to vaccinations? Can I reverse this? How?

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I agree with being dairy free, however, fruit is very important because they contain nutrients that not only protect from disease, they also repair damaged DNA. If you can't eat fruit, then by all means take in concentrated fruit powders, that contain phytochemicals but don't contain sugar or fructose. These have been removed so they can be used by diabetics, etc.
Any powders u recommend? I can't do fruit bc I am fructose intolerant AND because I have candida.

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You have to get energy from somewhere, and I can't see how your diet can supply you with any energy, thus the need for B12 shots?

You need energy or you will be tired all the time. That means more nutrients, but not necessarily more calories.
I lack intrinsic factor, thus the need for B12 shots. Again, I ask u HOW I can tweak what I am currently eating so that it is more nutrient-dense AND is a good diet to kill candida and metals? I'm not trying to be a pain, but I really need specific advice, like a meal plan. I can't find anyone to help me, nor can I find anything concise on the net.

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To help kill candida you could drink white or red (rooibos) tea. Add a drop or two of clove oil, which is a super antioxidant. You could also use organic olive oil, coconut oil, oregano oil, etc in your diet.
How much coconut oil do I do per day? Do i eat it raw or do I cook with it?


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The multi won't do you much good unless it is made from whole food rather than cheap synthetic fractions. The Mg should be from citrate so it can easily be absorbed, the vitamin C has to be a large enough amount to be of any value and must be taken in divided doses throughout the day with bioflavonoids.
I take 2000mg Vit C. My multi is one from my chiro (Klaire Labs). The Mag I do is citrate. I also do supps for thyroid and adrenals



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I'm glad you didn't say tap water, however, you need minerals, and there are no minerals in distilled water. Without mineral cofactors, vitamins won't work, and speaking about minerals, check out some youtube videos on Dr. Joel Wallach, he knows alot about minerals, which, by the way, may be the reason for most of your health issues.
I do distilled b/c I'm trying to detox. I put chlorophyll drops in it (ChlorOxygen)
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You are young and have severe health problems. I don't know what happened to cause these issues but if I had to guess I would say it is due to one or all three of the following reasons:

1 > Vaccines from when you were young.

2 > Lack of vitamins, minerals, amino acids, and fatty acids.

3 > Fungus.

No doctor will help because they don't have a clue how to treat you for all your symptoms, however, there is one person who can help you. If I were you I would contact Gary Null. I don't know his number but his site is:

https://www.progressiveradionetwork.com/contact-us/

This is his radio station and you can email him from the link above.

He has often stated that he has never charged anyone a penny to help with health problems, and you have alot of health problems. He has alot of good people who work on his behalf. Just explain in the email what problems you are having and ask that he set you up with a protocol.

Your health problems are well beyond the scope of this forum.
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Here is some very interesting and new Candida information. This is where I learned of the copper connection.

https://www.drlwilson.com/articles/candida.htm

So many things worthy of note from that page.

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Beverages. Drink pure spring or distilled water, or mild unsweetened teas only. Do not use distilled water for more than six months, as it can leach some vital minerals from the body. Avoid most other beverages such as milk, which is high in sugar. A little raw, certified buttermilk is okay, however. Strictly avoid all soda pop, Kool-aid, punch, fruit juices, Gatorade, Recharge, alkaline water, and strictly limit vegetable juice to about 10 ounces daily. Also avoid sweetened teas or coffees, lemonade, wine and most alcoholic drinks. As stated above, a small amount of carrot or other vegetable juice, while sweet, may be very helpful to assist healing.
Avoid strict vegetarian diets. In fact, they can make the problem worse, while natural meats, poultry, eggs, plenty of cooked vegetables, and a few nuts and organic cow or goat cheese are usually best.
In some cases, the very strict diet in the yeast books is often unnecessary if one follows a nutritional balancing program to correct underlying causes. Most people report they have weight loss and severe food cravings on the very strict candida diets.
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