As far as the coffee enemas, I worry about them a bit b/c a couple allergy tests said I reacted to coffee. Would this be a bad idea, then? I could really use the liver detox, though!
I worry about using MMS enemas, for it is already making my throat raw as all heck. Is that normal?
It destroys any anaerobic viruses, bacteria, fungus, yeast and parasites it comes across.
Lactobacilli probiotics are Gram-positive, non-spore forming rods (coccobacilli). They have complex nutritional requirements and are fermentative and anaerobic. Lactobacilli are the most important bacteria for Candida management.
Bifidobacteria friendly probiotics are nonmotile, nonsporulating Gram-positive rods with varying appearance. Most strains are strictly anaerobic. B. longum probiotic may be considered as the most common species of bifidobacteria. They are found both in infant and adult feces.
Very good point jfh, but we should not assume that because Lactobacillus are anaerobic that MMS will destroy them just like any other anaerobic bacteria. Who knows, in vivo, they might survive somewhat. The safe route to take would be to not stop her probiotics.
Very good point jfh, but we should not assume that because Lactobacillus are anaerobic that MMS will destroy them just like any other anaerobic bacteria. Who knows, in vivo, they might survive somewhat. The safe route to take would be to not stop her probiotics.
Thats what I thought. Id rather take them just in case, rather than risk further dysbyosis
I looked at all those clinics you listed. I would not go to a chiropractor for your condition. Chiropractors are too limited in their scope of practice in Illinois. If you were in Idaho I would wisk you away to a chiropractor who can legally do extended therapies of more medical complexity.
This is the clinic I would go to and I would see this homeopath as well as Dr Edelburg. You should be able to combine homeopathy with other things. Mostly I am concerned that you get past your gastropareis and constipation, although MMS may do that for you... if does not this is the next place to go... to the homeopath. https://www.wholehealthchicago.com/about/sujatha-mannal/
I would not leave MMS behind, but get clear on how to best apply it. It seems that you need protocol 1000+
I am so glad that you are looking around for more help
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MMS making your throat raw is likely a detox reaction. Be sure to drink plain water after drinking mms.
YOU WILL HAVE DETOX REACTIONS THAT MUST BE ENDURED.
Did you read the testimonials on Jim Humble's site to see some of the detox reactions some people go through? You are a sick cookie. You will have detox reactions. Prepare pshychologicallyf or them. Most of us here have been though them.
Thanks so much for the advice and for taking the time to look at those websites. I was thinking about going to WholeHealth Chicago for a while, but it is in the heart of the city, and it's a rough drive (I live in the suburbs, about 50min away). I hope they aren't "supplement-happy"...they use metagenics as some of their supplements, and I HATE that company.
Do u really feel homeopathy will help? It never worked for me before...
Too bad I'm not in ID...I really value ur adivce and would trust anyone u would refer me to see.
I could not find the detox reactions on his site...I could only find the testimonials. I'll try to look again, unless u happen to have the link handy.
Have u heard of The Healing Codes? I'm reading it now and it is fascinating. It really sounds like it works....do u have any knowledge of this?
Very good point jfh, but we should not assume that because Lactobacillus are anaerobic that MMS will destroy them just like any other anaerobic bacteria. Who knows, in vivo, they might survive somewhat. The safe route to take would be to not stop her probiotics.
I agree with you in continuing probiotics, especially if they contain several species. I've also read that lactobacilli can actually survive in an aerobic environment for a while. The problem with the new protocols of MMS (once every hour) is that there is no opportunity for much to survive.
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I agree with you in continuing probiotics, especially if they contain several species. I've also read that lactobacilli can actually survive in an aerobic environment for a while. The problem with the new protocols of MMS (once every hour) is that there is no opportunity for much to survive.
But perhaps if the probiotics are taken at night, then they can have some impact on the gut while a person sleeps??
I forgot if i asked this, jfh: did u do the new protocol?
1000+ Protocol for candida and metals. I think I should switch to this one, since "Microbes have a life span. You have to hit them repeatedly. Candida is no different. The DMSO will help get it to where the mms needs to be more effectively." DMSO also helps detox metals and crosses the blood brain barrier. This protocol is a two-one punch!
Other great chelators are glutathione (EXCELLENT STUFF!), Vit C, Chlorella, cilantro, Garlic, MSM, NAC. But, since some of these counteract with MMS, it would probably be best to hold off on these until after the MMS, or do them 2 or more hours after the last dose of MMS at night.
just in reading the testimonials some of the people have talked about their detox reactions... there arn't many but they are unusual... including pain, buring.
I had a detox reaction once that caused blisters all over my forearm. It was poison oak coming out that I had repressed years before.
yes, thats the one protocol 1000+.
There is a posibility that homeopathy will help. Have you ever been to a homeopath before? not naturopath.... HOMEOPATH. If homeopathy didnt work for you it is because you took the wrong remedy. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to figure out a case and yours is complex... with many layers of disease... and drug disease is an issue I suspect. Anyway, maybe that Dr E. can advise you on the best approach. But I certainly would not give up on yourself without have given homeopathy a significant shot.
Yes, Ive looked at the Cole clinic before. It looks good.
I had a detox reaction once that caused blisters all over my forearm. It was poison oak coming out that I had repressed years before.
Wow! That's insane! How many times have u done MMS? Have u only used the 1000+ protocol, or have u tried others?
I've heard of people using it everyday for years. Do u continue to use it everyday? If not, how often do u use it and for how long?
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There is a posibility that homeopathy will help. Have you ever been to a homeopath before? not naturopath.... HOMEOPATH. If homeopathy didnt work for you it is because you took the wrong remedy. Sometimes it takes a lot of work to figure out a case and yours is complex... with many layers of disease... and drug disease is an issue I suspect. Anyway, maybe that Dr E. can advise you on the best approach. But I certainly would not give up on yourself without have given homeopathy a significant shot.
I've been to two or three homeopaths before and it didn't help. I actually reacted to the last combo of remedies...which is odd, bc there should be no reaction. It might have been the alcohol base it was in.
Why do u think that I won't benefit from a chiro in IL? I refuse to take meds, so seeing an MD is unnecessary. Ugh, I hate MDs!
Wow! That's insane! How many times have u done MMS? Have u only used the 1000+ protocol, or have u tried others?
Well that detox reaction was from homeopathy, not mms. I've had several from homeopathy... some difficult to get through. like buring feet... which preceded improved circulation in my feet. I have never had a detox reaction from MMS. Only with homeoapthy, although many other people do.
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I've heard of people using it everyday for years. Do u continue to use it everyday? If not, how often do u use it and for how long?
I do not use it every day. I use it for illness only. I use it for irritable bowel disorder for which it has worked better than anyother treatment I have tried. I have used it for this twice. Each time it has stopped it dead in its tracks. The first time for over 3 years... then I had to repeat for a few days last winter. So far so good.
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I've been to two or three homeopaths before and it didn't help. I actually reacted to the last combo of remedies...which is odd, bc there should be no reaction. It might have been the alcohol base it was in.
This is absolutley not true. A correctly selected remedy may cause a reaction, a detox. I am leary of taking a combo of remedies though. It confuses the case in my estimation. Many times there is no reaction, but sometimes there is. The most powerful remedies that I have taken that did the most healing did cause a reaction.
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Why do u think that I won't benefit from a chiro in IL? I refuse to take meds, so seeing an MD is unnecessary. Ugh, I hate MDs!
Just look at the nature of the Chicago clinic that this MD formed! I doubt Dr Edelburg will prescribe much drugs. He may have some very interesting modalities of treatment at his disposal. Chiropracters are too limited and I do not think you will find your cure with them. I do not hate MDs. I seek MDs that do alternative medicine. If you throw the baby out with the bath water you loose much. Some of the very best alternative practitioners in the USA are medical doctors.
Did you bother to read about Dr David Edelburg? He is not your usual doctor having brought all these alternative specialist together.
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What do u think of the above link? This woman is dead-set against MMS...Are her claims true?
That person, HV (James Sloane), is a professional herbologist, who has a lot of experience with mainstream med field. I follow him closely and save his comments for personal study in most cases. It is my favorite subject. He absolutely does not like chemicals, so his comments are biased. I can see why you would not like his comments on such chemicals. BTW, he uses ozone therapy for himself.
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