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Right now I am not eating as good as I probably should. I am contending with living very rurally and we have a lousy grocery store and the veggies always look terrible.
I rarely eat fruit and if I do its berries.... blue berries and raspberries, curents.
I've been growing a garden the last two years and so things are much better in the summer. Ive also been doing some wildcraft foraging and that helps. This year I am able to freeze some of the things I have grown.. Next year I will be able to grow greens year round in our new sunroom.

I eat a lot of meat, daily. I was a vegetarian for 13 years and thats when I was my weakest. When I started eating meat again thats when things started to improve considerably. I got melanoma in the midst of my raw foods period.. go figure.
All these diseases are so much more complex that what you eat... for me it probably has a lot to do with the over use of antibiotics.... and then stress, especailly way back then.

I eat lots of homemade yogurt, coconut oil, grapeseed oil, flax seeds, green drinks, salads, nuts, butter, fish, brown rice, 3 or 4 eggs a week, and I am eating bread these days, one or two slices a day of homemade bread. Since moving up here I have been gifted many times with deer and elk meat, goat and rabbit, all natural meat products from the wild or naturally raised... during more healthful stress times and illness I have fully cut out the bread and all grains. Always the best grains are quiona and amarinth, (but my husband doesn't like them so I gave up on them) then brown rice. I am a blood type O and the low carb dies I know is best for me, and I have proved it to myself, but I don't sustain it all the time. Soon we will be getting in a 1/4 steer for the freeezer of grass fed beef and I am planning on going on the low carb thing again for a while.

I am a user of homeopathy. In homeoapthy it is generally believed that If you are healthy you should not have to limit your diet to extremes. Of course the processed foods will always be toxic.. but most people should be able to eat moderate amounts of bread, cheese, wine, meat, or what ever their little heart desires if the foods are natural,,, if you are healthy. There should be no allergies to anything. Allergies and food intolerance is ALWAYS a sign of malfuntion and illness. So I seek to walk the middle road. I have had homeoapthy to help me. When I developed acid reflux pretty bad all the "cures" didn't help much but homeoapthy cured. Homeoapathy has also helped me with candida and other fungus over the years. It has cured eczema for me. I can really eat anything most of the time. It cured chronic constipation and if you have gastroparesis I recommed it, as generally this condition is considered incurable by medical doctors, but can cure at times with homeoapthy. It has also cured insomnia for me and chronic posion oak toxicity that really, I think was the cause of my insomnia. Really, a lot of things over the years. I dont remember them all now. It was mega dosages of D3 that cured my psoriasis. Nothing else touched it.

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Here is an explanation of SmartSilver and how it compares to collidal silver: https://organicallythought.com/online...ver-by-desbio/

Think this is better than colloidal? I'm new to silver, so I have no idea. Is this hype or true? PinballDoc: could u lend your expertise as well?
Thank you for sharing some content from our website. To clear this matter up a little more you can find some accounts of my personal experience with this product at https://organicallythought.com/antibi...s-smart-silver this link brings you to part 2 of a 3 part series of articles on smart silver. The page you have found was a description of it in our online store. we are discontinuing carrying this product because we want make sure to communicate our knowledge of it with our bias opinion because we believe in the product so much. Thanks for visiting our site and we welcome comments.
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I used to be vegetarian, then vegan ever since I found out that meat came from animals. But, due to peer pressure, I started to eat eggs, then poultry and fish. I am sad that I did that, for now i feel it's impossible for me to go back to being a vegan, even though I was my healthiest as a vegan. I was actually training for a figure/bodybuilding competition and was STRONG. Eating animal products made my GI system way worse. I never had GERD or mucus production after eating and never was hypoglycemic. I have to take so many digestive enzymes and HCl caps b/c I cant digest my food. I ate a ton and had a good appetite. Now, I have gastroparesis and have no appetite. I enjoyed my food and had lost of variety. Now I dont. I feel like I damned myself. I HATE eating animals, I hate the taste, texture, the way it makes me feel (physically, spiritually, mentally), and it conflicts with my morals. But, my GI is so wrecked, that I doubt I'll ever be able to be vegan again. :-(

How do u make ur own bread? Are u Gluten-free? Yeast-free?

Did u follow a Candida diet before, or did u find that it didn't really help?

What is considered "low carb diet?" There is a lot of mis-information on this.

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I am a user of homeopathy. In homeoapthy it is generally believed that If you are healthy you should not have to limit your diet to extremes. Of course the processed foods will always be toxic.. but most people should be able to eat moderate amounts of bread, cheese, wine, meat, or what ever their little heart desires if the foods are natural,,, if you are healthy. There should be no allergies to anything. Allergies and food intolerance is ALWAYS a sign of malfuntion and illness. So I seek to walk the middle road. I have had homeoapthy to help me. When I developed acid reflux pretty bad all the "cures" didn't help much but homeoapthy cured. Homeoapathy has also helped me with candida and other fungus over the years. It has cured eczema for me. I can really eat anything most of the time. It cured chronic constipation and if you have gastroparesis I recommed it, as generally this condition is considered incurable by medical doctors, but can cure at times with homeoapthy. It has also cured insomnia for me and chronic posion oak toxicity that really, I think was the cause of my insomnia. Really, a lot of things over the years. I dont remember them all now. It was mega dosages of D3 that cured my psoriasis. Nothing else touched it.
That's amazing with the homeopathy! How did u learn how to know what tinctures to use? I agree that the body should be able to handle whatever we give it, granted that it is healthy. My body hates everything, even water. :-(

What do u recommend for gastroparesis and constipation? Can it help with fungus and metals?
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Today is a crappy day. I'm reacting to something. IDK if it's die-off. I doubt it. I think I'm reacting to that liquid multi. I got congested/phlegmy/tight throat after consuming it. :-( Also, my GI issues are bad (gassy, bloated...)

Why doesnt muscle testing work on me!? My chiro tested this product and I was supposedly fine. URGH.

Still no MMS reactions yet. Do some people NOT get any detox reactions to it?! IDK how that could be possible for me!

here's my latest diet change:

-veggie juice
1 rice cake + 1 TB almond butter + 2 TB rice protein

-Stir fry (3oz chicken breast, steamed veggies, 1/2TB coconut oil, a few TBs of homemade avocado/pea "guacamole" + kelp, cayenne, black pepper, sea salt)

-1 rice cake + 1 TB almond Butter + 2 TB rice protein

-2 soft boiled eggs

-Same stir fry as above

Is this ok?
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I have never followed a candida diet, except when I do a low carb diet which is probably close as it is only meat, fish, eggs, cheese and not processed carbs at all. Only veggies for carbs or berries. I never believed that the candida diets were of much value. The people who follow them don't get better but I guess there may be some symptom improvement. I am not gluten free nor yeast free. My digestion is pretty good and candida is not a major issue for me.

Constipation was the first thing they cured with me in homeopathy. I swear to god that I only had 4 or 5 normal BMs in 9 months. ... if I hadn't been working for a chiropractor at the time with access to colonic machines I would have exploded. Dr Schore in Seattle area cured me with a remedy and the cure was almost over night. It was like a miracle. I was about 24 at the time. I do know that at times they can cure gastroparesis.. especially if the cause did not come from surgery, injurey, cancer or radiation. The vagal nerve must still be intact, as a malfunction with vagal nerve is usually at cause. The only cure for this condition that I know of is homeopathy or acupuncture, but the acupuncturist should be an OMD, oriental medical doctor. The homeopath I went to was a medical doctor who turned to homeopathy as he saw through conventional medicine. Thats all he does these days, oh, well he also does bioidentical hormone replacement.

I trained with the British Inst of Homeoapthy. I can't recommend a remedy for you as selection is a lengthy process and needs to be done face to face. You would have to find a classical homoepath to visit.

I think it would be wise on your part to try to cure that gastroparesis. So much hinges on it, as well as constipation if that is an issue also. There are many cases of constipation that just dont respond, even to alternative methods... as the issue is not flora nor diet, but nerve innervation... something has happened so the gut's persistaltic action is no longer hardwired to the nervous system as it should be. Hard to say what may have caused this but with homeopathy the cause is not important to know in this type of case.
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Why doesnt muscle testing work on me!? My chiro tested this product and I was supposedly fine. URGH.

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I do not have alot of confidence in muscle testing. Few practitioners are objective enough to do it nor knowledgable enought to apply it correctly.

I met some women once who were getting homeopathic remedies that were selected by muscle testing. They were in the store looking for more of the same remedy as it still tested good for them. They had already downed one bottle and needed another. This is total insanity. One bottle which is generally enough for 30 or 40 people did not cure, so because of muscle testing they wanted more? They had been greatly ill advised. If something does not work you do not take more... especially with homeopathy! It is not a nutritional supplement. Because they really had no interest in learning how homeopathy functions they continued with their folly. I could only shake my head. I guarantee it brought no cure and the practitioner who advised them needs a spanking.

Having worked in a health food store for a while I ran into many people taking all kinds of stuff because of muscle testing.... few got better in my opinion. In all my years at this stuff I only met a couple of people I trust to muscle test me. One was from one Naturopath who diagnosed every single fluke of my conditon with muscle testing correctly. If they cant to that I would not trust their results.
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So, if candida diet don't seem to work, in your opinion, why do people continue to do them? Don't the carbs we eat "feed'' the yeast/fungus? How should someone eat who is battling fungus?

I tried homeopathy in jr high and it didnt help. Plus, he was incredibly expensive (several hundred dollars per visit!). There are no good alternative docs in IL. All seem to be scammers who are only in it for the money. The West has better alternative people b/c it is more regulated there.

I have been dx'd with polyvagal nervous system dysfunction due to trauma (abuse since I was a child through adulthood). basically, my body is always on fight or flight. Many docs think this is the cause of many of my issues, but no one knows how to resolve it. My current chiro is trying emotional NAET, but I'm having a hard time believing in it. It did NOTHING for my food intolerances (thru a different practitioner).

Have u heard of The Healing Codes? I'm reading it now and it sounds promising.

I wish I knew what to do. I feel like nothing works...everything I try only makes me sicker and/or more uncomfortable. it pulls me farther and farther away from "normalcy."

I wish I could find a doc who can pinpoint what I need to fix and give me a plan. I have no idea what to do... I read and research, but the info all conflicts. I'm getting so hopeless.... :-(
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Thank you for sharing some content from our website. To clear this matter up a little more you can find some accounts of my personal experience with this product at https://organicallythought.com/antibi...s-smart-silver this link brings you to part 2 of a 3 part series of articles on smart silver. The page you have found was a description of it in our online store. we are discontinuing carrying this product because we want make sure to communicate our knowledge of it with our bias opinion because we believe in the product so much. Thanks for visiting our site and we welcome comments.
Thanks for the link.... what do u mean that u are "discontinuing carrying this product because we want to make sure to communicate our knowledge of it with our bias opinion...?" Are u saying u aren't going to make this available, even though it works? I'm so confused!
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I do not have alot of confidence in muscle testing. Few practitioners are objective enough to do it nor knowledgable enought to apply it correctly.

I met some women once who were getting homeopathic remedies that were selected by muscle testing. They were in the store looking for more of the same remedy as it still tested good for them. They had already downed one bottle and needed another. This is total insanity. One bottle which is generally enough for 30 or 40 people did not cure, so because of muscle testing they wanted more? They had been greatly ill advised. If something does not work you do not take more... especially with homeopathy! It is not a nutritional supplement. Because they really had no interest in learning how homeopathy functions they continued with their folly. I could only shake my head. I guarantee it brought no cure and the practitioner who advised them needs a spanking.

Having worked in a health food store for a while I ran into many people taking all kinds of stuff because of muscle testing.... few got better in my opinion. In all my years at this stuff I only met a couple of people I trust to muscle test me. One was from one Naturopath who diagnosed every single fluke of my conditon with muscle testing correctly. If they cant to that I would not trust their results.
I agree. it has never worked on me. And, the results are never consistent. One day I'm fine, the next time we test it I'm not. Sometimes I feel they skew the results for their profit.

I sent my chiro an email about my reactions today to the new multivitamin. Here is what he said:

"There are times you need to take a break from all the supplements you are taking. Give yourself a two day break from everything. Take the coconut oil and mms only.

Your body and your mind are not communicating as to how it needs to heal, we need to work more on the emotional aspects of your life and the frustration you are facing on a daily basis with eating and colon issues.
Please do not be hard on yourself.

What you are eating is fine.
In any healing crisis you will always feel worse before you feel better.

Best regards,"

Is this BS or is this valid? He wants to do "emotional NAET" on me and feels that will help me heal. IDK. last time I tried NAET, it sucked (different practitioner).

Here is my reply to his email:
"There are some things I need to take:

-digestive enzymes, HCl, mag/cal/D, aloe, vitamin C (the first two help me digest. . . the last three help me poop! :-))

-So I should stop the Vit D, Iodine, Multivitamin, interfase, thyroid and adrenal supplements, fish oil....

-Do I stop the probiotics too???

-I havent started the silver or the Sacro B yet.

I wish I could just feel BETTER, instead of "worse before better." I already have been feeling "worse" for years, and feeling even more worse is not fun. If I knew for a fact that this was a "healing reaction," then I'd be happy! But IDK if this IS a healing reaction....or if it is just a plain old reaction!"

I feel like I'm being screwed...again.....
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My doc says to stop the probiotics... is this a good idea when taking MMS?

I worry about stopping the probiotics. Won't stopping them cause more dysbyosis, since the MMS is killing the "good bacteria" too? Or, is he thinking that if I stop the probiotics, the MMS has less bacteria to contend with (good and bad guys), so it can kill the bad guys easier, since it won't have the good guys in the way as well?
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My doc says to stop the probiotics... is this a good idea when taking MMS?

I worry about stopping the probiotics. Won't stopping them cause more dysbyosis, since the MMS is killing the "good bacteria" too? Or, is he thinking that if I stop the probiotics, the MMS has less bacteria to contend with (good and bad guys), so it can kill the bad guys easier, since it won't have the good guys in the way as well?
In general, from what we know, MMS1 does not kill the "Good Guys" much if any. I think you dr. needs to review his notes. I cannot think of a reason to stop your probiotics.
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In general, from what we know, MMS1 does not kill the "Good Guys" much if any. I think you dr. needs to review his notes. I cannot think of a reason to stop your probiotics.
It destroys any anaerobic viruses, bacteria, fungus, yeast and parasites it comes across.

Lactobacilli probiotics are Gram-positive, non-spore forming rods (coccobacilli). They have complex nutritional requirements and are fermentative and anaerobic. Lactobacilli are the most important bacteria for Candida management.

Bifidobacteria friendly probiotics are nonmotile, nonsporulating Gram-positive rods with varying appearance. Most strains are strictly anaerobic. B. longum probiotic may be considered as the most common species of bifidobacteria. They are found both in infant and adult feces.


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So should I continue with my probiotics?

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It destroys any anaerobic viruses, bacteria, fungus, yeast and parasites it comes across.

Lactobacilli probiotics are Gram-positive, non-spore forming rods (coccobacilli). They have complex nutritional requirements and are fermentative and anaerobic. Lactobacilli are the most important bacteria for Candida management.

Bifidobacteria friendly probiotics are nonmotile, nonsporulating Gram-positive rods with varying appearance. Most strains are strictly anaerobic. B. longum probiotic may be considered as the most common species of bifidobacteria. They are found both in infant and adult feces.
Is Bifidobacteria beneficial then? It seems Lactobacilli have more "oomph" against candida. My probiotic has a mix of both types of strains
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Out of these docs, who would u see:

1. https://lombardhealth.com/

2. https://www.geipelchiropractic.com/

3. https://www.wholehealthchicago.com/about/david-edelberg/

4. https://www.docmeade.com/about-dr-meade/

5. https://www.elanwellness.com/doctor/c...s-we-treat.htm

Lastly, Have u guys done coffee enemas before? is this something I ought to consider?
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I would do mms enemas before coffee in your case but it would not hurt. Coffee enemas push the liver to detox but it would be better if your bowels were open and functioning a little better.

I just can't believe your doctor told you to stop probiotics... because you had to work on emotional stuff and your head and your body can't agree on how to heal? For god sakes..... I thought I had heard it all. Guess not.
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