I have been doing the rotation scheme for 4 years. About the same time I discovered MMS and shortly after I discovered Lugol's iodine. So I've been serious about finding a solution for those years. However, I've been trying things for decades without proper diagnosis. That's always been the problem. Diagnosis.

I make my own colloidal silver with distilled water and silver rods at 20ppm. I take 2 ounces daily. If I feel something bad is about to happen I take 2 ounces every 3 hours.

This current candida diet has just started for one month now and will continue until the end of Nov. Such a diet should really go for 6 months, but I'm not buying the possibility that candida can survive all the stuff I've done for it, including Diflucan.

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About 4 years ago, I started MMS. I started with one drop twice a day while activating it with real lemon juice (drops). By the sixth day, it was so bad that I did not know whether I should lean over the toilet or sit on it. I did not know which was going to come out first. I stayed on 6 drops for 2 day before continuing on to 15 with no more problems. I stayed on 15 twice daily for 2 weeks than dropped to 6 drops for about 9 months. I can't stand lime any more, but seem to have no problem with lemon or lemon flavor.

Wow, Jfh, u've certainly had a long battle trying to heal this! I admire your knowledge and perseverance!

I know I have a very long battle ahead. I've been struggling for so long, but cannot find proper help. I hope I'm on the right track now.

Did the MMS cause u to be bloated or gassy? (Sorry for this question). This is the only current "side effect" I'm getting now...but it's hard to tell if it's from the MMS or the candida or something I ate... my body likes to be evil to me, lol.

What was the reasoning for staying on 6 drops for 9 months?

Tomorrow, my chiro is going to go over my supplements (muscle test them and streamline them so that I'm not taking too much and/or taking things I don't need), as well as my diet. Do u have any advice on things I should be on while doing MMS and things I should do AFTER the MMS? Also, what are some things diet-wise I should discuss with him? Any tips would be great, for although he is a good chiro, I feel that I often need to play "doctor" sometimes, for he tends to miss things...

MMS bloating and gassy. Yes. That will go away as large groups of pathogens finish expiring. That is part of the detox. As pathogens die, they give off toxins, such as ammonia. The liver will compensate as much as possible, but it will be overwhelmed. My reason for staying on 6 drops was because that was considered the maintenance dose. I had already taken the dosage to 15.

There is really only one rule for MMS use. Antioxidants vs MMS. They don't go together at all. However, you must take vitamin C during the day, because you need the antioxidant function. Take it 2 hours away from MMS. My personal rule was to keep an empty stomach for 1 hour before and 1 hour after. Twice a day is quite sufficient. If you need more than that, you are in more trouble than you even want to be in. If you take MMS in the morning and evening, take probiotics at lunch. No matter what you hear, MMS is discriminating in its antiseptic function. Supposedly, it only attacks anaerobic pathogens, but many friendly bacteria also fall into that category. Remember that you will also be taking herbs to destroy pathogens as well.

My theory was that if I was going to go to 15 drops of MMS 2xday, then I would not need to replenish my friendly bacteria. After all, I was destroying all bad pathogens, so there would be no need for good bacteria until my protocol was over. But many people could not make it to 15 drops. They lingered on and on. When I went back to 6 drops, I felt it was a good time to recolonize my intestines.

You should ask you Dr. the diet questions you raised. I find that they are not consistent among themselves, but it would be interesting. Questions like wheat and rice. It would be best if he can give you a printed list of foods to avoid. Ask him how strict you need to be, if you are taking potent herbs.

In regard to wheat and rice, after reading Teds post on th article about wheat by Dr William Davis, makes me think no one should eat this stuff unless its an heirloom variety... although rice is not mentioned in the article its not hard to figure that what they have done to wheat has happened to rice also..

and I can't help but disagree with Bee that wheat or grains are essential to a healthy diet... I guess maybe some people need them to feel well or they think they need them to feel well. It would be best to stick with original grains that have not been adulterated, at least I think they have not and that would be quiona and amanrath... did I spell those right?

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I never said wheat was necessary. I avoid wheat and gluten like the plague! However, I said that some grains (gluten-free) have benefits like vitamins, minerals, and fibers that are unique to them as a plant.

Do u avoid all grains, arrow?

Jfh: I take 2000mg vit c. Is that a good amount as an anti-oxidant?

What did u mean by: ??

from what I read, MMS has a 2 hour life span and it is recommended that antioxidants be taken 4 hours before or 2 hours after MMS.

I hope my chiro gives me solid info on diet.... my head is spinning from all the conflicting info!

Should I be taking antifungals during MMS? Would that cause too fast of a detox?

Do u do Kefir or yogurt?

And I have a question on nut butters: I know that raw is best in most cases (because it does not alter the oil), but since nuts can carry mold on them, is it better for those of us who can the propensity to develop yeast/mold/fungal issues to eat roasted nut butters?

2000mg Vit C is very good for antioxidant. The best way to determine how much is too much, is when you take more and more until you begin to have temporary diarrhea. That's when you back off a little.

You should be able to eat about 1 hour after MMS. However, it is best to avoid vitamin C for 2 hours.

I like grains and see no problem with them, however, I am paying attention to Ted's reports. I know they cause inflammation. I'll cut back when I feel that my LGS is recovering. I'll not use them while I'm on the Candida diet. Humans have been using grains for many millenniums. The problem is modern agriculture.

I have used yogurt in the past, but I feel that I need more. So I take VSL#3, which has about 250 Billion active microbes per cap. I take 2 at bedtime. I think that is sufficient. Kefir is the very best of the fermented foods, because it has the most variety of species of bacteria. My problem is that I can't keep up with it daily. It is like sourdough bread. You've got to keep it going.

Twice a day of MMS should be sufficient to fix your condition or let you know that it is not going to work. Once you are sure that it is working for you, you can escalate it, if you want. Just remember that fungus can hide. You might be in destroy mode for a while. You can count on MMS destroying bad and many good bacteria. This is ok while you are fixing your condition, but at some point you want to get out of destructive mode and start rebuilding, especially rebuilding your intestinal probiotics. You can't do that while your are using more than twice a day. You can try to do it while only twice a day. Theoretically, you should not have to rebuild while you are dosing with MMS at all. After all, you need the good bacteria to keep the bad in check, but MMS is doing that for you. Right? Since I don't trust that theory, I felt like I needed time for probiotics between doses. I feel that I had so much dysbiosis, that MMS had a hard time getting beyond my small intestines before it destroyed itself in the battle. Do whatever feels right for you.

I do not think it is necessary to take antimicrobials while taking MMS. It won't hurt though.

I just got back from my chiro... man, I feel like I knew more than him. it was very frustrating and IDK if my new TX Plan is good... here is the new plan:

-continue with MMS and get to 15 drops BID and stay there for about a week, then lower

-Add in Silver 1 tsp BID(He had be buy "SmartSilver from DesBio https://www.desbio.com/database.html?...Smart%20Silver). It is not colloidal silver, but purified silver, 10ppm). Is this a good product or should I get a Colloidal Silver (which brand)???

-Interfase from Klaire Labs https://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=K-INT-12 (enzyme complex to destroy the biofilms of pathogens). Work up to 1 cap QID on empty stomach

-Klaire Lab's Sacro B 1 cap TID with meals (3 billion CFUs per cap, for a total of 9 billion CFUs) https://www.klaire.com/prod/proddetail.asp?id=V776-12 Is 9 billion CFU's too much?

-New liquid multivitamin (this one looks awesome!)

-Coconut Oil 2TBs per day

He knew nothing about the diet and I had to explain it to him. He felt that diet didn't really have that much of an impact, especially since I already eat pretty low carb. He said my case is difficult due to all the food and GI issues I have (gastroparesis, GERD, food intolerance, constipation, etc). He felt that brown rice (whole grain, not processed foods like my rice tortillas I eat) are beneficial for the B vitamins, fiber, and other nutrients. Plus, it gives variety to my meals. He said I can have 1/2c of brown rice and 1-2 organic brown rice cakes. That is less than 60g carbs, so that's considered very low carb. I remember when I totally cut out grains before and it was hell. I got very depressed b/c it decreased my serotonin. Plus, grains are ACIDIC, and because I am ALKALINE, the grains will help me lower my pH. Plus, rice has nearly NO sugar...veggies have more sugar than whole brown rice. I'll limit my intake AND I'll cut out the rice tortillas.

We muscle tested Green Valley lactose-free dairy yogurt and Okio's plain Greek yogurt. To my surprise, they both tested strongly (even though I have reacted BADLY to dairy in the past). SHould I chance it? I don't see how yogurt is better than brown rice....the yogurt has WAY more sugars, no fiber, and the amount of probiotics in it is nothing compared to my capsules. WOuld this be more harm than good?

I felt like I had to explain a LOT to him. it was frustrating. He is a very nice man, and the only doc I've been to who is empathetic and will talk TO me and not DOWN to me. However, I don't think metals and candida are his specialty.

As for the metals, he doesn't feel EDTA-IV is a good idea anymore and thinks I should do DMSA orally. I asked about adding ALA to it (since the protocol is usually DMSA and ALA), and he said "sure, I guess u could add that." LOL. Ugh. Is DMSA + ALA a good metal protocol?

What do u guys think about all of this?


BTW, I feel icky. Very bloated and gassy. Is this die-off or a reaction? I haven't taken the MMS since 5am. I did try one Interfase enzyme, but that couldn't be working already!

I thought u WERE doing rice currently? Are u totally avoiding grains now?


Do u still do yogurt? I'm scared to try it...I muscle tested fine with it, surprisingly, but dairy used to give me major issues. Not sure how that could have resolved. Should i chance it? I don't understand how yogurt is that beneficial...it doesn't have THAT much probiotics in it and the sugar is higher than brown rice....

I am definitely taking probiotics during the day (and will add Sacro B: 3 billion CFUs TID for a total of 9 bill CFUs). I don't want to take a chance of any bad dudes sneaking in there!

My chiro isn't too impressed with antifungals. He thinks the enzymes work best b/c they break the biofilms. Also, candida can't grow resistant to enzymes, right? I think the MMS + Sacro B + 125 million CFUs of a 12 strain probiotic + Interfase enzymes + Silver + 1 TBs Coconut oil is a good killing combo....right???

Here is an explanation of SmartSilver and how it compares to collidal silver: https://organicallythought.com/online...ver-by-desbio/

Think this is better than colloidal? I'm new to silver, so I have no idea. Is this hype or true? PinballDoc: could u lend your expertise as well?

Here is a quote from the website:

"Smart Silver is an engineered nanoparticle, not a colloidal silver. It is manufactured using 10,000 volts of current, energizing the entire waterbase, enabling Smart Silver to work as a catalyst to kill bacteria as it draws energy from its environment and emits energy at wavelengths that are measured at 890 to 910 terahertz. This is the same frequency at which germicidal ultraviolet light resonates and is deadly to bacteria. Therefore, Smart Silver, due to the patented revolutionary process of its manufacture, does not deal with bacteria on merely a chemical level, as do colloidal silvers, but also works on a measurable energetic level.

Work completed thus far indicates that Smart Silver is distinguishable from every other silver product tested. The work was headed by the leading materials science laboratory in the world at Pennsylvania State University and was personally led by Professor Rustum Roy, who is regarded as one of the top materials scientists in the world. Also under the direction of Professor Roy, testing was performed by distinguished scientists at Arizona State University (and other locations). They determined that Smart Silver is much more effective as an antimicrobial at very low concentrations of silver when compared to other products, some of which contain many times greater silver concentrations."

I'd be very interested to hear what pinballdoctor has to say about this smart silver. I don't know what they mean that it is not colloidal. Colloidal silver is nanoparticles suspended in liquid.

Brown rice is acceptable on the candida diet. For some reason, I don't seem to lump rice in as a grain. It sure is. I guess I don't feel that it is a inflammatory as wheat or oats. Even corn is considered a grain. Not soybeans. They are an oilseed. I'm not eating rice daily. Perhaps once a week. It's just that oriental restaurants have such good recipes with rice.

I'd prefer not to eat yogurt, because a food test in 2003 showed a moderate reaction to milk. I do eat yogurt when I can find some without sugar. But only occasionally.

Silver is an anti-fungal, antibacterial, antiviral, so that alone is sufficient. With MMS, your parasites do not stand a chance.

So if brown rice is ok on the candida diet, then I've been eating a candida diet without knowing it?! (Well, IDK if the rice tortillas count, for they are made with brown rice FLOUR...the whole grain is probably better).

Would it be wise to cut out brown rice...or is 2 organic rice cakes and maybe up to 1/2c brown rice each day ok to do? Is that too much, carb-wise?

All I know is that I got on a brown rice cake kick for a while and I gained weight.. there is something not right about them IMHO. .... perhaps too processed. They are high in carbs which equals sugar and I finally figured out that that was probably why I was craving them

Arrow: Do u cut out all carbs and/or grains? What is your diet like and how long have u eaten this way?

Those of us who have a history of fungal/yeast issues, are we doomed to eat a restricted diet for life? Or can we eventually go back to eating a wider variety of foods?