i couldnt agree more with PureSong.

I have been through it too.. still not 100% but very close to it. It started for me almost 2 years ago.. Had all the symptoms.. frequent urination, urgency, weak erections, weak ejaculations, no libido, cloudy urine at times, pelvic pain, depression, anxiety, loss of confidence, felt like I was losing myself.. relationship problems because of it.. all of it..

And im wayyy better now.. infact in many ways im healthier then I was before. I have good erections now, good ejaculations, no urinary frequency, not really any urgency, no cloudy pee, no pain, libido is returning..

So.. yes, you can, and you will beat this. Its just hard to see that when your cought in the grips of it.. just now that your in the eye of the storm, but it will pass with time/improving your health.

I agree too that, there is no miracle solution. You were not living a healthy lifestyle before and because of that you got prostatitis. At least you didnt get cancer or heart problems. These things happen for a reason.. its a wake up call for you to take better care of yourself.

You can take it one of two ways.. either you look at it as a disaster, the worst thing that ever happened to you, your life is over as you know it... OR you take it as a challenge, as a valuable lesson, as an opportunity to better yourself as a person in every way.

You need to stop eating crap food, no fast food, no processed food, no sugar, no pasteurized dairy, very little alcohol, no drugs.. buy organic food, not food thats filled with pesticides, hormones, chemicals etc.

You need to eat lots of veggies, fruit, brown rice, free range, grass fed organic meat drink lots of good quality water (but dont overdo it)..

Stop taking all the bullshit supplements.. I did that to, when I first got told I had this problem, my initial reaction was to freak out and do everything I could to get better which for me meant buying every supplement I could.. there was a time when I was taking literally 20 different supplements everyday. It was crazy.. and it did not help me.. not even a little bit.

Most supplements are crap anyway in my opinion. They will never match what real, organic whole foods can do for you, they are just cheap imitations.. Its just a way to escape your responsibility, you cant find health in a pill, you have to change the way you live, the way you eat, the way you think..

Stop obcessing over what the cause is either.. I went down that route and it will lead you no where but anxiety/depression/confusion/frustration. You will not find the cause, and you do not need to. It could be a number of things, stress, infection, fungus, diet, allergies, pelvic floor tensions/trigger points..

But guess what, the cure to all of them is right diet, right lifestyle.. The only reason any bacteria, fungus, anything can proliferate is because your providing the environment for it, take that away and they cannot survive. Start eating right, sleeping well, drinking good water, cutitng out all the crap, reducing stress, taking up yoga/meditation, get fresh air, go hiking, hang out with friends, cut loose a bit. Almost every man will have to deal with his prostate at some point, so your not a lone.

The cure to prostatitis:
- Sleep well [pref. go to bed early, get up early, 8 hours min.]
- Drink a fair amount of good quality water (6-8 glasses per day, but dont overdo it) the better quality you can find the better, I drink alkaline water now.
- Stop eating spicy foods and caffeine.
- Stop eating pasturized dairy products.
- Stop eating simple carbs like white rice/white pasta (only very rarely!)
- Do light exercises that stretch your body/stimulate blood flow (yoga, tai chi, walking, hiking)
- Avoid sitting for too long, causes stagnation in the pelvis.. maybe give up bike riding for a while, replace it with something else.
- Practice slow deep breathing, abdominally.. when you feel stressed take a deep slow breath and make the exhale twice as long as the inhale.
- Improve your life.. been avoiding something? get it done, find what you really love to do in life and pursue it 100%. Try not to dwell on your issues, I did that for over a year and honestly that was the worst part, even worse then the actual problem itself. Dont fall into that trap. Trust me and puresong, YOU CAN GET BETTER!

Also like he says, ACCEPT your situation, you cannot change it, you cannot go back to who you were before, youve now been through a new experience and you will never be the same again, but dont despair, you can be a better you then youve ever been before.. life throws us curveballs.. gotta learn to roll with the punches, life is not always a walk in the park.

Good luck guys! You can heal ALL of your symptoms.

you sure are right about "obsessing about the cause" that just led to stress on my relationship and anxiety.

really great post. Man you are so right about dwelling on stuff it was so draining and destructive, and it really is a good opportunity to take risks.

thanks guys. i have been on a few forums searched the internet and have not found anybody saying they beat this without their hand out. these two posts will mean a lot to people that are suffering. this site is a gift. finally men that share, know and are been cured helping. i thought for a long time this has no end. these posts are like medicine to us all.

knowing that you will never be the same is tough but knowing that the pain will go away is something to look forward to.

I guess people who get better just don't go back to the forums, it took me a while before I decided I should share.

Great advice Moxsum, and a very positive and realistic perspective. Can be related to many other conditions also.

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Thanks guys. I hope my words can help you.. I wish someone had told me these things when I was in your situation.. instead I had doctors/crazy people on the internet telling me all kinds of ridiculous things and it made it a lot worse.

I bet its true too that, a lot of men when they are feeling better stop frequenting these kinds of forums/prostate forums etc. You can imagine how you would want to leave it in the past and just forget it ever happened.

Just like a lot of other chronic problems, western medicine will tell you theres no cure. Yet, people cure themselves of cancer, diabetes, auto immune diseases, infections, you name it.. everyday using natural methods. Often times, with chronic disease, the cure is right in-front of your eyes, its what your putting in your mouth, your mind. I think many times these problems are "chronic" because people are still doing the same things that are causing it, whether they realize it or not.

Ive been reading a book by Bernard Jensen, its about Goats milk actually.. he mentions prostatitis.. he lumps it in with all the other "itis" .. gastritis, vaginitis, otitis, etc.. goes on and on, basically what western medicine has done is take inflammation of any part of the body and turn it into a disease/disorder. This creates fear/stress/confusion in all of our minds when we are told we have "You have prostatitis, we don't know what causes it" (cue scary music).. then you start learning about it on the internet.. trying your hardest to figure it out, you hear one theory after another, maybe its a tiny bacteria that they cant find, maybe its a fungal infection, maybe its this that, your mind runs wild.

According to dr. Jensen, itis', is a build up of what he calls "Catarrh" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catarrh) which is basically mucus production in response to inflammation.. it builds up in our bodies and its sticky/etc causes problems, but normally it will be eliminated/flushed out by the body unless theres too much and more importantly your not flushing it out properly. Thats why taking drugs that suppress mucous, like psudafed etc are so terrible, the last thing you want to do is stop your body from getting this stuff out.. and guess what causes prostate problems? Psudafed! and other similar drugs will make your problem way worse, NEVER take them.. I made that mistake early on, I had a cold a month or two after getting prostatitis, took psudafed/mucinex etc and I swear it made things worse, my urine stream got really thin, and maybe still hasnt gone back 100% normal. Colds/congestion etc, is just your body detoxing itself. its healthy.. if you suppress that natural process you will get disease. Thats the whole problem with our culture, anything thats uncomfortable is deemed bad, and we must get rid of it right away. Most diseases, symptoms are a cry from your body, telling you somethings not right, its not getting what it needs from you, but instead of listening, we try and cover it up and keep it quiet.. but that only works for so long.

Jensen mentions that one of the main causes for catarrh to build up is fatigue.. when your fatigued your body cannot eliminate waste as easily. Ive definitely noticed this to be true for myself.. I also read a number of urologists books, and I remember them mentioning that .. although they didn't know what was causing prostatitis, almost all of there clients had not been getting enough sleep. HELLOOO...

And then what happens when you get this problem?? IF your like me, you stay up til 4 AM every night obsessively researching everything you can about it, not realizing that your actually making matters much worse.

I realized recently thats another cause in chronic disease.. When your told you have a problem that has no known "cure" and its causing you problems.. it causes TONS of stress/frustration/anxiety/depression all kinds of terrible emotions, those emotions stop your body from healing properly.. then you go searching for a "cure" which you never find and your life gets totally messed up. So many times ive heard stories of people who had serious problems, and once they fully accepted it emotionally they got better.. Im not saying this is the only cause, but its worth considering. I know it made my situation much worse.. I had never even thought about my prostate til the doc told me I had prostatitis, and he wasnt very caring/nurturing.. it sent me into a tail spin of anxiety/confusion/frustration. If I could go back in time knowing what I know now.. I really believe I could have been back 100% within a few months at most. Instead I spent over a year in a state of constant anxiety/depression. The worst part is the confusion.. not understanding whats happening to your body, and these doctors who are supposed to know, have no idea.. its bewildering and scary.. suddenly you have to take responsibility for your own health! Cuz those western docs arent going to. Kind of like when you leave home the first time ha.. But it will make you stronger in the long run.

So I would like to add this to my list of lifestyle methods for prostatitis:
- NEVER take any cold medicine unless its 100% all natural herbs or something. Never take psudafed, mucinex or anything similar.

Also isnt it interesting that Jensen says itis is a build up of mucous in response to inflammation, and when I took a drug that supress mucous my prostatitis got worse? Hmm.. its cuz it pushes the problem back into the body and it causes disease!

/rant

Awesome post moxsum! Thank you. Starting today im going to look at it as a sign to change everything i do. I am glad you decided to stay with us and help the thousands of people get through this miserable problem.

moxum, too cool man,
I wish you were around when I was dealing with this... seriously would have helped. So much.

Or maybe I couldn't hear it when I was too busy looking for an instant cure.

So to everyone reading this thread, if it is past 12:00 go get some sleep!

First I should say that I haven't tried any of these herbs in my own personal treatment.

I found this in a book today, and thought it may be useful to some of you. Remember there are many different theories about prostatitis, and different things work for different people.
Drink eight to sixteen glasses of water a day
eat blue berries, keeps harmful bacteria from attaching to the prostate
Get regular exercise, but do not ride bicycle because it may put unnecessary strain on a healing prostate.

source pureprostate.com/guest

its sad to say but you would think one of us would have a doctor that would say lets do all the test on you we can..... find out what infection or infectious thing you have or prove that we dont have infections... make a name for themselves??? help someone in serious pain be healed.... do their job to the fullest and be a healer. what really is a doctor these days? a greasy mechanic?

just venting a little so sorry if this bothers some but the wide open mysteries of cp is just too wide and filled with uncaring MDs.

i understand nobody wants to stick fingers in other mens rectums or deal with their semen... but they are the ones collecting the dough and in the offices.. also if something takes longer to culture then leave it till the time it needs for a definite culture. am i asking to much?

not trying to generate support or anger but i might be saving the next doctor i see thursday some real abuse. thanks for listening.

hmp

In america they actually have a little insurance guide booklet, it says in it after several trials of antibiotics to diagnose you with prostatitis and send you to a urologist, who then tries to give you some dangerous surgery.

hey moxum my wife is addicted to your website abcarcade.com

I am from the old prostatitis forum as well...do u have any idea why it was shut down? I believe chronos was running it for past few years. I really hope Iwillbecured can find this site or we can find him...I had been following his thread about allicin and stumbled across this site by doing a google search for allicin and prostatitis. What is the new prostatitis forum u mentioned?

welcome fellow sufferer. that site was great and yes the allicin story was hopeful. there are some people here on allicin. hit the search button and type allicin you should get more info on it here.

the new site is prostatitis-forum. it is useless and nobody is on the site and it is going nowhere. the site is run by someone named admin. he keeps erasing my posts on slamming him no for what he has done to the other site and channel real sufferers here to a site where they can get some real help. there are some people that aid our fight that have beaten this terrible plague. yes for once on line there are people not wanting money that say it is possible!

ask and someone will respond unlike the old site. so this is even better. the people here amazing in care and knowledge.

if you can and to everybody keep posting on the new site prostatitis-forum and help bring others here. we need them to share as much as they need help. plus giving that jerk admin a hard time for what he did. the last post on that site is feb 1st. others are in late jan. he killed it for reasons we can only imagine. as you will see its the exact same format but you can not private message.

he claimed to me that it was him admin and this was the new site. (if you read)

anyway he maybe a floater on this sitre now too since he had my posts on this site on his and there was some cross overs till he checked his own site and erased it.

as for iwillbecured i wish him well. allicin may help but at 12 a day it didnt for me. there is a guy here that is doing like 30 a day hope to here from him before he goes broke.

best of luck and share you experiences.

hmp

I've battled this for 10 years. This is my first Internet posting.

When I was 23 my hair began thinning. My testicles would throb sometimes after ejaculation. It's has gotten worse since then!

I now shaved my whole head cuz of baldness. I'm fine with that but wonder if there is a relation to my prostate issues and baldness starting at the same time at 23.

I've been to 3 or 4 different urologist these past 10 years for prostatitis issues and for awhile they all said I was too young to have any problems and they didn't tell me anything to do to prevent my problems. I was just shooed away. I was always tested and no bacteria showed on tests even though my urethra was always burning!

I finally have a primary care dr that is young and hands on and wants to help. But so far it's we've only done a few treatments of cipro for 3 weeks at a time. My symptoms do go away but comeback after a few months.

Anyone get these symptoms...

Burning in urethra and all the way down urethra pass nuts and to anus? It burns like something is tying to creep up my urethra but nothing does.

Always feels like I had to urinate. And when I do it's a depleted stream and it burns. But after urination sometimes the symptoms subside for a little while.

My testicles always seem to be cold and shriveled up and the tip of my penis feels cold or wet but its not wet.

My semen is very very jelly like and think. Like molasses. I told my dr about it and he just said all mens semen are different. Haha typical answer!
It will stick to a hand and not drip. It will stay motionless and just look like thick ass glue! And sometimes ejaculation is very little and not like it was when I was younger and healthy without symptoms.

So I just wanna know if anyone else gets all those issue too?

The burning urethra down to anus, the feeling of something creeping up urethra, cold pelvic area, very thick semen, depleted semen, always feeling need to pee..etc etc ????

yep.... my semen is runny but it has had thickness and sometime a solid gel in it. raw but mostly watery like normal or very watery.

you sound like all of us. cold genitals. do you have firm erection problems? or ED? it is common and i have suffered from it.

the hair is related i feel to my issue. i am not in a panic but mt body may be in a stress.

so guys i saw a doctor for over all body at the hospital. he said by looking at me i didnt have ant food allergies or intolerance because i looked healthy. ( i bet we cp suffers are all healthy that are trying to get better )

he also dug in to my brain and mood. he admitted when i asked him that he thought this was all psychosymatic. that i wass creating this or making it up. the cocky bastard. he sent me for blood tests and showed me the door. another waste of time and money i am fearing. no semen test but i did beg for a parasite test in the blood and another urine test that will show high wbc i am guessing.

still drinking mms and the anti carb candida diet. i gave up collidal silver water after reading a site that said you use up mms clearing the body of silver. so keeping it simple now. i still get symptom relief when i take large doses of mms

another thing the doctor said that candida was a joke a theory, yeast was a beautiful thing and there is no such thing as leaky gut and it was made up by quacks and mental cases. i see this mental case wack job again in 4 weeks. i know arrowwind09 and others would say different. i know serious care givers would too.

oh well they are really brain washed and full of themselves. to bad they didnt have the burning cock run over testicals and sixe 12's up their asses. then lets see the theories and treatments.