[[[[[ By the way I tried the karate stance stretch thing that I will be cured and lovelife did posted on here.
And I must say it now burns a bit to pee more than usual and it seems to have aggravated the symptoms, low back hurts very bad now. Is this common when first trying these stretch things. I also have a strange itch inside the head of my penis now. Is this stuff common ? Does this mean its working ? not working? what ? ]]]]]
Angry Crumb, can I ask you do they get bacteria from you urethra?
I am thinking not.
Have you ever tried antifungals? You seem to be a right candidate for a yeast protocol. I don't know much about your story but you seem to post quite a bit.
There is such a thing of secondary infections. This I believe confuses a lot of us. Also stretching can help but it is stretching. We all are tense down there because we are in pain and or inflamed and in pain. Your anger maybe a stress that your body doesnt need but if you have not tried antifungal (pharma) then lets all see what happens.
You can get them south of the boarder or on the interenet.
Again I am unfamiliar with your story.
This site is here for most people that have had antibiotics and have been ruined by them. They are very unhealthy. I wish I never took them and like you I hate doctors. This is not in our heads. This is very real.
A lot of people including 2 of my friends have fiber myalgia and they have candida. It is common to think that they are related.
[QUOTE=HarryCrumb;196352][COLOR=Blue][SIZE=2][B][COLOR=Black][[[[[ By the way I tried the karate stance stretch thing that I will be cured and lovelife did posted on here.
And I must say it now burns a bit to pee more than usual and it seems to have aggravated the symptoms, low back hurts very bad now. Is this common when first trying these stretch things. I also have a strange itch inside the head of my penis now. Is this stuff common ? Does this mean its working ? not working? what ? ]]]]]
Your back hurts because you over exerted yourself. That stretch that your talking about is too advance for your weak muscles. You gotta start with small stretches and build on that slowly. As long as you don't do this, your back will continue to get irritated resulting in worse pain.
I found itching, tickling and fluttering/twitching sensations to be all positive reactions to stretches. This has been discussed before another forum. Though yeast can also cause itching.
[COLOR=Blue][SIZE=2][B][COLOR=Black][[[[[ By the way I tried the karate stance stretch thing that I will be cured and lovelife did posted on here.
And I must say it now burns a bit to pee more than usual and it seems to have aggravated the symptoms, low back hurts very bad now. Is this common when first trying these stretch things. I also have a strange itch inside the head of my penis now. Is this stuff common ? Does this mean its working ? not working? what ? ]]]]]
Your back hurts because you over exerted yourself. That stretch that your talking about is too advance for your weak muscles. You gotta start with small stretches and build on that slowly. As long as you don't do this, your back will continue to get irritated resulting in worse pain.
[[[[[ By the way I tried the karate stance stretch thing that I will be cured and lovelife did posted on here.
And I must say it now burns a bit to pee more than usual and it seems to have aggravated the symptoms, low back hurts very bad now. Is this common when first trying these stretch things. I also have a strange itch inside the head of my penis now. Is this stuff common ? Does this mean its working ? not working? what ? ]]]]]
You might want to put a 1/2 tea spoon of sea salt with a little baking soda in your drinking water. It helps me with the pee department. Pain and foam. I had some kidney pain when I first started it and it took care of that too.
I did it once a day for three days. I now do it once a week. Hope it helps.
Question for everybody. Has any of your eating habits changed, whether it be eating less and losing weight, or eating more and gaining weight ?
My food intake has sky rocketed and I have put on close to 100 lbs since this has begun from August 2010. I have never been so hungry in my life and no it is not stress. My stomach empties at a high rate. It feels like my body is trying to get all of the nutrients it can from food for energy like it is fighting something and needs all the fuel it can get. An example: say food is cooked and I am having for supper - hamburger helper, mashed potatoes, green beans and rolls. Normally I might come back for 2nd helpings, then I am stuffed that is all I could eat. But now I could come back for a 3rd plate even a 4th plate full, then eat a bowl or 2 bowls of cereal right after words. And its not one of those things where I am depressed so I am gonna end for no reason, it actually feels like my body is famished.
I also wanna add something I recently read I have saw multiple times now where a man had his prostate out and it did not stop any of his symptoms. A guy named chris in the UK had it out and his symptoms never went away. And a guy had his out and his symptoms never went away until he had his cowper's gland taken out. And another man had his prostate taken out and the pain never went away and he ended up being castrated, which stopped his symptoms. I am starting to learn their are way to many strange things that happen with this disease and their may also be other organs in the body that can mess up and cause symptoms that mimic that of prostatitis. I still wonder as a young adult how diet pills caused me to have ecoli bladder infections, I would take some ephedra fat burners and bam bladder infection. I remember the doctor was saying I was nuts and no way I was getting these bladder infections from diet pills. And soon as I would take one bam, another bladder infection would occur.
I tried different brands, the twin lab ones would lock me up where I could not urinate for so many hours. one cheap walmart brand made me hallucinate, I ended up freaking out and crying hysterically, believing I was being chased by midget jesus in a white robe. I know that sounds funny to onlookers but it wasn't to me when it was happening, I then lay on my bed freaking out and started screaming because I believed my mattress was on fire and that I was sinking into hell, I finally passed out and slept the night away and the affects wore off. But of course I kept trying different brands of the ephedra stack that would all have different side affects on my body, because I got it into my head I needed the ephedra for my training to make me stronger and faster.
When I started drinking whey protein that is what started the prostate symptoms,my skin was even burning on fire before rocephin shot knocked that burning out. I also had fever and chills and a lot of vomiting. Ciprofloxacin originally killed it 7 days of cipro wiped it out. So I ordered ON name brand protein $50 for a huge keg of the stuff, thinking it was cheap walmart powder that did it. Then I done something stupid and drunk the protein powder again and this time was taking cipro while drinking it, cipro then stopped working and I have been with this crap ever since.
I did finally figure out why the protein powder was burning my skin,being one that never learns and being the same dumb a$$ that ran through reactions with diet pills. You know I would keep trying right, I bought some protein powder I think it was called something like nutrabio, that contained no artificial sweeteners such as Aspartame , Saccharin. Suffice to say the protein powder without sweeteners did not cause the skin burning that the other 2 previous protein powders caused, but it did start adding to the low back pain, so I quit taking it. So the sweeteners were what was making my skin burn,and whatever it did it stuck with me till rocephin knocked it out. I have heard of men having allergic reactions even a man getting prostatitis from brushing his teeth with a certain tooth paste and how his symptoms stopped once he switched brands. I have also heard of prostatitis being caused by chemicals. I just don't understand why my body has this kind of reactions to supplements, its crazy...... How could a protein powder cause an infection ? The average person would say it couldn't. But then again how did those diet pills cause me ecoli bladder infections, the average person would say they couldn't, but they did.
hey Iwillbecured, I noticed you said you're near 100% cured after a long course of doxycycline and a supplement. Could you be more specific about how long you took each and what supplement you were taking? Not sure what's going on with me but it's been several months of issues that doctors don't know what to call. This all began after I took up mt biking again this past summer so think that may be the cause.
Urinalyses never showed any bacteria, so I might be in the non bacterial boat which would really suck. Although I responded well to the last round of cipro even though it was only for a couple weeks that I took it. I took it a few times only a week to two weeks every time. Now I hear it takes much longer than that for substantial effect.
Anyway it'd be great to hear what your regimen was for attacking this. Thanks a lot!
This all began after I took up mt biking again this past summer so think that may be the cause.
Urinalyses never showed any bacteria, so I might be in the non bacterial boat which would really suck. Although I responded well to the last round of cipro even though it was only for a couple weeks that I took it. I took it a few times only a week to two weeks every time. Now I hear it takes much longer than that for substantial effect.
Apparently you can trace this back to mt biking which is one of the classic ways of getting abacterial prostatitis or CPPS which is what you probably have as most of us here. This has many triggers like initial infection, biking, stress, sports injury etc. I think what helped in your case were not the anti-bacterial properties of cipro but its anti-inflammatory properties. If I were you I would stay away from any antibiotics especially in a case like that where no infection is involved. Start looking for info into CPPS. First line of treatment would be stretches, relaxation and maybe anti-inflammatory supplements like quercetin. Hope that helps.
Thanks for the response kite surfer, yeah I've heard mt biking, or cycling in general, but especially mt biking and horseback riding are major aggravaters. Most of the mt bikers I've heard from on biking forums end up with bacterial versions that are quickly treated with antibiotics though. I also read that it's usually the anti inflammatory properties of cipro that usually bring relief.
Thing is I've never had a semen culture done and each urinalysis was right around when I either just stopped antibiotics or I was on them (don't know why they still tested if they knew this?). So I think I'm going to get some agar and petri dishes and test these things myself. For several days not just a couple days and see what's really going on.
If it's really non bacterial then I guess it falls in the hands of either god, science, or luck and I'll have to wait and see what prevails. I've also heard mixed things about quercetin, zinc, and all the alternative meds (vitamins, supplements etc) but will definitely give them a shot if they bring some relief.
Just seems like there's got to be a simple fix for this, that's why it's so aggravating. As far as we know it's not an autoimmune disease nor is it cancer, there must be something out there that can simply restore our prostates.
Thanks for the response kite surfer, yeah I've heard mt biking, or cycling in general, but especially mt biking and horseback riding are major aggravaters. Most of the mt bikers I've heard from on biking forums end up with bacterial versions that are quickly treated with antibiotics though. I also read that it's usually the anti inflammatory properties of cipro that usually bring relief.
Thing is I've never had a semen culture done and each urinalysis was right around when I either just stopped antibiotics or I was on them (don't know why they still tested if they knew this?). So I think I'm going to get some agar and petri dishes and test these things myself. For several days not just a couple days and see what's really going on.
If it's really non bacterial then I guess it falls in the hands of either god, science, or luck and I'll have to wait and see what prevails. I've also heard mixed things about quercetin, zinc, and all the alternative meds (vitamins, supplements etc) but will definitely give them a shot if they bring some relief.
Just seems like there's got to be a simple fix for this, that's why it's so aggravating. As far as we know it's not an autoimmune disease nor is it cancer, there must be something out there that can simply restore our prostates.
Hi JimJams.
Same thing happened to me. I started to have pain in urethra/testicles and then started to bike ride more after/during a doxy treatment. I didnt' take it long enough and/or doxy was too weak to kill the bug so it got into my prostate. Went to several uro's and all urine cultures came back negative while on abx. after 10months I decided to culture my own semen that's when it came back positive. I ran my own susceptibility tests and found that my bug is resistant to doxy, cipro, and bactrim all of which are standard abx's uro's will throw at you. I'd suggest you buy your own plates and culture your semen while off abx to see what you have then you can target your approach/treatment.
Hey Craig that's encouraging to hear that. How'd you run your own susceptibility tests though?
Also how do I maintain sterility when transferring semen and urine to the agar dishes...should I just aim directly at the dish? Seems like collecting it in a cup or using a q tip or anything may transfer bacteria that's already existing on those surfaces you know? Awkward question, I know, but unfortunately there's only one way to find out haha.
I'll try to keep this short as I always type a bunch of stuff and go off on a rant endlessly complaining. I would like to see people talk about where they have went to seek treatment at ? Is anybody going to actual prostatitis experts or clinics or just local urologists ? I think one of the reasons I am still setting around with this is I keep going to the local urology clinics and these guys don't know anything about prostatitis, and they often say here is a cup now pee in it, we found nothing in the urine, its all in your head, now go home. I don't think family doctors or the local urology clinics can deal with this sort of disease.
But there are a number of clinics in the U.S that actually specialize in treating chronic prostatitis or Chronic prostatitis pelvic pain syndrome
The Krongrad institute in Miami Florida does prostate removal, yet they also offer other services such as the following
I'm weighing my options personally, I may try a local infectologist but if he can't do anything for me, I'll prolly take off to one of these prostatitis clinics
By the way if you are planning on doing semen culture, prostate culture etc. you have to be off antibiotics for a minimum of 2 weeks, some clinics recommend 4 weeks. Because if antibiotics are still in your system they could mess up a test and mask an infection.
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