Thanks for that information Sparky. I have had the 1st semen test positive, took atbs for 5 weeks then had 2 test (came up negative) and 3 test, came up negative with contamination. Now I wonder if i shoud do an additional VB3 test (by myself as described above, just to be sure or again a semen test.
The muscular component of this condition may indeed be the case as you say. What is constantly worrying everyone and me included is the discofort that lasts so long...(burning in the back and front, stinging ect). If this is a muscular thing and not caused by bacteria, then the discomfort is something like a head ache, so it is bearable and hopefully treatable from a long term perspective.
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Just for your information, I have had both of these tests, and have come up negative consistantly for an infection. Even more proof, that more times than not, this is muscular related. Muscular and tendon related injuries take a long time to heal, especially when they are constantly being used, such as the pelvic floor and its components. Also, because these muscles are innervated by many nerves in this area of the body, much of which control organs such as the prostate and bladder, it can take much longer for the nerves to quiet down and heal, even after the muscles have healed. When these muscles are out of whack, they irritate the nerves passing through or by them. It's really pretty simple logic if you stop and think about it.
number 999 post by harry crumb, kidding. Getting a trans rectal ultra sound has been a pain, family doctor refused to let me have one and told me to find a urologist. grrrr
On the other hand I am almost positive that what I am suffering from is a fungal infection at this point. Antibiotics are now making my symptoms worse, making me tired , jittery , and the anal pain and erection worse. I was able to get a hold of 3 diflucan pills, which wasn't long enough. But in those 3 days I was on them, I wasn't tired nor worse out and my joints were not achy. Then I popped a few antibiotics and my symptoms went through the roof again. I'm in a lot of pain from the antibiotics.
Anybody recommend some kind of herbal anti fungal crap o something along those lines ?
To me this is very strange, how sick my body gets while on antibiotics.
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number 999 post by harry crumb, kidding. Getting a trans rectal ultra sound has been a pain, family doctor refused to let me have one and told me to find a urologist. grrrr
On the other hand I am almost positive that what I am suffering from is a fungal infection at this point. Antibiotics are now making my symptoms worse, making me tired , jittery , and the anal pain and erection worse. I was able to get a hold of 3 diflucan pills, which wasn't long enough. But in those 3 days I was on them, I wasn't tired nor worse out and my joints were not achy. Then I popped a few antibiotics and my symptoms went through the roof again. I'm in a lot of pain from the antibiotics
Keep popping antifungals and antibiotics like this in such an uncontrolled and inconsistant manner and you're sure to develop a slew of other problems. Better hope you don't do any other damage to your body that is unnecessary. People like you, along with prescription-happy doctors are going to be the ones reaponsible for the antimicrobic resistence pandemic that is on the horizon. These medications require a prescription for a reason. You shouldn't be using them so light-heartedly.
Keep popping antifungals and antibiotics like this in such an uncontrolled and inconsistant manner and you're sure to develop a slew of other problems. Better hope you don't do any other damage to your body that is unnecessary. People like you, along with prescription-happy doctors are going to be the ones reaponsible for the antimicrobic resistence pandemic that is on the horizon. These medications require a prescription for a reason. You shouldn't be using them so light-heartedly.
[[[ People like you, along with prescription-happy doctors are going to be the ones reaponsible for the antimicrobic resistence pandemic that is on the horizon. ]]]
Why would I be responsible for a resistance pandemic, sparky that is dumb. No one is going to be able to get whats in my prostate, or as you put it -- its not really any ones prostate we just flexed our lil tummy muscles and all hurt our selves. And of course no one who ever had their prostate removed was cured according to you, since it is all pelvic muscles.. Even though hundreds if not thousands of people have been cured with prostate removal, including men like dave radford , nicholas muff, Gerry Nishikawa , Rich Ellenberger , Robert Patterson and Stuart Burchett.
And you actually have the audacity to come on this forum and tell everybody they hurt their tummy muscles. But of course you say this hiding behind your computer where you can run your mouth safely at home. And I'm pretty sure you were the guy who laughed at love life and told him have fun with the jerking. And he responded he was married. You are a jerk sparky and a big a$$hole at that. I have zero respect for you or anything you say
[[[ People like you, along with prescription-happy doctors are going to be the ones reaponsible for the antimicrobic resistence pandemic that is on the horizon. ]]]
Why would I be responsible for a resistance pandemic, sparky that is dumb. No one is going to be able to get whats in my prostate, or as you put it -- its not really any ones prostate we just flexed our lil tummy muscles and all hurt our selves. And of course no one who ever had their prostate removed was cured according to you, since it is all pelvic muscles.. Even though hundreds if not thousands of people have been cured with prostate removal, including men like dave radford , nicholas muff, Gerry Nishikawa , Rich Ellenberger , Robert Patterson and Stuart Burchett.
And you actually have the audacity to come on this forum and tell everybody they hurt their tummy muscles. But of course you say this hiding behind your computer where you can run your mouth safely at home. And i' pretty sure you were the guy who laughed at love life and told him have fun with the jerking. And he responded he was married. You are a jerk sparky and a big a$$hole at that. I have zero respect for you or anything you say
I am not talking about an infection in your prostate. Poor use of antimicrobials can result in drug resitant infections elsewhere in the body. Your ignorance and arrogance truly saddens me when I have tried relentlessly to help you. Do as you wish and have your prostate removed. Please come back after and let us know the outcome, as I am very interested to see your results. You have taken a thread which is aimed at aiding fellow sufferers, and turned it into an arena for arguement. I have not the slightest clue why you are lashing out at me. Very immature.
I am not talking about an infection in your prostate. Poor use of antimicrobials can result in drug resitant infections elsewhere in the body. Your ignorance and arrogance truly saddens me when I have tried relentlessly to help you. Do as you wish and have your prostate removed. Please come back after and let us know the outcome, as I am very interested to see your results. You have taken a thread which is aimed at aiding fellow sufferers, and turned it into an arena for arguement. I have not the slightest clue why you are lashing out at me. Very immature.
Because you lash out at me on here, and anybody that mentions the word antibiotics or bacteria you jump their a$$ for mentioning it. I will do as i wish its my body, if I wish to take a million pills or jump off of a bridge tomorrow it shouldn't be your concern as its my body and you don't even know me. I'm just some guy off the internet. When people hurt and people suffer that is when people get scared and when people get scared that is when they get crazy... Can't believe we can't use curse words on forums, even though we are adults, I hate that. It would be so easier to get points across on boards if you could use a little bit of language.
If I ever get to the bottom of this I will post here. But as far as randomly being on this board, I'm done with it, as it isn't doing me any good but rather frustrating me. for the simple fact when I fist joined this board , their were so many posts and answers it seemed like I would come across something that would indicate a cure. Now its just people posting links to what some doctor said about how a certain drug works or the same couple of links over and over. no one is seeking medical advice from doctors, its just people buying herbs on amazon.com . This site has become one big joke and it just p*sses me off anymore
Just an update. I developed an infection in my bladder;
Frequent urination
Burning pain
Stinging in my bladder
Feeling pressure on my bladder (like pushing out)
Mild fever 37.4
Loss of appetite
Started on Trimethoprim at 400mg a day and after 1 day my symptoms have already disappeared. The symptoms were different from the prostatitis I had before as these symptoms were all confined to the bladder. As I said before; I've always had urinary infections growing up from a child. Just thought I'd share that anyway! For me I know that bacteria was the cause of my prostatitis/ cpps, which did result in pelvic floor dysfunction. But antibiotics always worked for me in a very positive way. (like night and day difference)
Dear fellow sufferers, check this link to Dr.Wise video on prostatitis and cpps,
very interesting. No more words, just have a look. Now, I am not saying you should agree with what is being said, still most
of the points i find to be true.
Guys please dont argue.This is such a great thread probably one of the best on the net.I never thought it would keep going for so long.
Things are a little better for me at the moment maybe the doxy is helping a long with everything else been on this for about 4 weeks..
I just wanted to say that I had unprotected oral sex 16 years ago and about 24 hours after that it started and it has never gone to this day.I know I have a small infection and untill it goes I will never be 100%.
Dear fellow sufferers, check this link to Dr.Wise video on prostatitis and cpps,
very interesting. No more words, just have a look. Now, I am not saying you should agree with what is being said, still most
of the points i find to be true.
I watched all three videos and never heard the word fungus mentioned even once.
All these Ph. D. experts, professor of Urology, and medical leaders don't have a clue what causes prostatitis, not a clue. They don't know how to cure it, and they don't even know how to treat it!
For those who are interested in the cause, I can tell you it isn't caused by bacteria (in most cases) and it isn't caused by inflammation because inflammation is only a symptom.
Something caused the inflammation.
They can't find infection in urine samples, they can't find any problems through x-rays, and they can't find problems with connective tissue or muscles, so they are totally stumped.
Everyone, to some degree, has a candida issue. Most are limited to about 5% and aren't a problem. The problem occurs when, for many reasons, candida fungi overgrow and spread throughout the body. There are many varieties of fungus, of which candida is only one, however, they are all alike in that they injest and excreet just like any living organism.
Not all fungi are harmful, however, some such as candida excreet chemical substances called mycotoxins, which are very strong poisons, and cannot be detected by x-rays or lab techs, and the health issues caused by these poisons are vast and can affect any part of the body.
Antibiotics will not affect these poisons, that is why most people don't benefit from even several rounds of antibiotics.
The only real cure is to kill the organisms that produce the mycotoxic chemicals, and until that is realized, there will never be a cure.
Think about it, these poisons cause inflammation, swelling, and pain. They poison surrounding healthy cells. They cause the brain to crave certain foods, usually carbs, and they rob the body of nutrients.
I find it ironic that scientists can determine several individual varieties of fungi on an ear of corn, but won't even look at a urine sample in the same way. Perhaps microbiology labs should send their urine samples to the wheat pool.
This is very easy to understand once you know how fungi operate. They love nothing more that a warm moist body in which to multiply, and their only goal is to take complete control of the host.
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IWILLBECURED, your success with treating this condition may inspire some of us. Would you mind sharing the exact therapy you had and are still having at the moment ? You say you are 100 % symptom free...Thanks.
[QUOTE=pinballdoctor;197365]I watched all three videos and never heard the word fungus mentioned even once.
All these Ph. D. experts, professor of Urology, and medical leaders don't have a clue what causes prostatitis, not a clue. They don't know how to cure it, and they don't even know how to treat it!
There might be some truth in what you say Pinballdoctor. Though in general the doctors in the videos stated most of the points that we have discussed already.
Still it seems that their way of treating it is through pelvic floor relaxation techniques. I have started to practise some streches and kegel exercies. The treatment with ionic silver water is what i am looking forward to. Especially if it is directly srpinkled through the rectum (using a siringe with a hoose) for a direct antibacterial effect on the prostate gland. The other way is to drink the silver ions, but there is a risk that they may not reach the prostate gland.
Anyone had any experience with colloidal silver on prostatitis already ? This seems to be the last resort if everything else (including atbs failed).
Because you lash out at me on here, and anybody that mentions the word antibiotics or bacteria you jump their a$$ for mentioning it. I will do as i wish its my body, if I wish to take a million pills or jump off of a bridge tomorrow it shouldn't be your concern as its my body and you don't even know me. I'm just some guy off the internet. When people hurt and people suffer that is when people get scared and when people get scared that is when they get crazy... Can't believe we can't use curse words on forums, even though we are adults, I hate that. It would be so easier to get points across on boards if you could use a little bit of language.
I understand how frustrating it is Harry. I don't have the same problem as you, but I have been unsuccessful with multiple mainstream doctors and multiple naturopathic doctors for decades. The problem, in my case, is diagnosis. They just don't know how. And the other problem is that what works for you and others, does not work for me. I don't like being special. What works for one, doesn't apply to everyone. That's why a forum is a good platform.
When I am accosted by "a bit of language", I become highly defensive and nothing else matters. So when people shout at me, I have no idea what they are trying to tell me. I shut them out. It does not work. That person or preacher becomes incredible, meaning they lack credence.
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The other way is to drink the silver ions, but there is a risk that they may not reach the prostate gland.
Colloidal silver may be weakened by stomach acid, however, will still get into the blood, and will travel to every organ and cell in the body, including the prostate.
The benefit from the silver depends on the strength in ppm, and the number of months or years that it is used.(not just a few days)
Things are a little better for me at the moment maybe the doxy is helping a long with everything else been on this for about 4 weeks..
I just wanted to say that I had unprotected oral sex 16 years ago and about 24 hours after that it started and it has never gone to this day.I know I have a small infection and untill it goes I will never be 100%.
Nice to hear about your updates lovelife. I now you are doing the treatment from the prostate-massage site. Hey I wonder are you also doing the internal massage with the drumstick as described in the following page?
I am actually thinking of trying this myself to see if it helps with the tip of urethra burning. However for me the target place would not be so much the prostate but rather the muscles in the immediate vicinity. By the way when someone does prostate massage it is also a limited levator ani muscle massage since the prostate is sitting on that muscle.
I also thought that it was strange that you started developing symptoms so quickly after the oral sex event. I had infections that way two times and both times symptoms did not show up for about 10 days. I read so many threads about stds and I do not recall anyone mentioning about symptoms in 24 hours.
No one is going to be able to get whats in my prostate, or as you put it -- its not really any ones prostate we just flexed our lil tummy muscles and all hurt our selves. And of course no one who ever had their prostate removed was cured according to you, since it is all pelvic muscles.. Even though hundreds if not thousands of people have been cured with prostate removal, including men like dave radford , nicholas muff, Gerry Nishikawa , Rich Ellenberger , Robert Patterson and Stuart Burchett. 
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