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Harry you are closed minded but in search of answers?

Antifungals made your prostatitis worse? Fungus - yeast is not supposed to be in the prostate. The only logical reason for an increase would be die off. I never experienced that.

The take a pill and feel better is not going to help anything but bacteria.

Beating yeast takes a long time and commitment.

Be warned antibiotics will make your body worse off and can cause prostatitis. There are some good sites out there.

This is not an arguement for me. I just care about the people that are in need and read this stuff and think it is the only reason. Personally I had - have a candida infection.
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Harry you are closed minded but in search of answers?

Antifungals made your prostatitis worse? Fungus - yeast is not supposed to be in the prostate. The only logical reason for an increase would be die off. I never experienced that.

The take a pill and feel better is not going to help anything but bacteria.

Beating yeast takes a long time and commitment.

Be warned antibiotics will make your body worse off and can cause prostatitis. There are some good sites out there.

This is not an arguement for me. I just care about the people that are in need and read this stuff and think it is the only reason. Personally I had - have a candida infection.

[[Antifungals made your prostatitis worse?]]

Yes



[[Beating yeast takes a long time and commitment. ]]


Diflucan is used for fungal, if I had fungal in the prostate it would have cleared it up. The fact that it only irritated and made it worse proves I do not have a fungal infection.


[[Beating yeast takes a long time and commitment.]]


This is nothing more than a cop out by saying don't take antifungal drugs for fungal infections they don't work fungal infections take a long time to beat. If all these supplements are so great why is nobody being cured by them ?


I have followed all of the recommendations on this site and none of it works from the stretching , herbal garbage, diets, probiotics etc....



I'll end with this , whatever is in me doing this to my body most of it was knocked out by an antibiotic shot. only a little bit was left it was very very mild. steroids made it worse and caused all of the prostatitis symptoms I now have. whatever I have was from the beginning resistant I lucked out and the shot worked and it was a very tiny shot 250 mg. If they had just gave me a bigger one it would have gotten rid of all of this and I would not have even known what chronic prostatitis is. The shot quit after that, pills have failed from the get go. so you see in my case I don't have any fungus, I have stated this at least a dozen times on this forum.

I have been trying like hell to get a different shot but am refused, have been trying like hell to get a cephalosporin oral antibiotic and have been pretty much refused for that as well and instead get given a prescription of a quinoline or tetracycline antibiotic which doesn't do anything. I have set here and told all of this to my family doctor and then he will turn around and prescribe me
quinoline antibiotic ciprofloxacin for 10 days and with a confident look on his face tell me he thinks ciprofloxacin will cure me. even though I took it for 28 days once.
So I have to wonder are doctors really this stupid or do they get a laugh at screwing with people ??????



stupid stuff that happens with prostatitis, bacteria located for men, the correct antibiotic prescribed but 90 days was not long enough to wipe out the infection

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2201796



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I stated this before the following link proves I am correct

https://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/2452...5MNLxUd4aC8H.6

Folks it takes 1,000 micrograms to equal 1 milligram. that pill you are taking is usually between 100 - 500 milligrams.

so for example if you are taking that trimethoprim, doxycycline, cipro etc
you are getting about 1 microgram of that pill into your prostate.
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Harry your mental health is in question and I am sure equal to your physical.

Harry you may just have a different type. One that you have to find.

Antifungals causing prostate pain just doesn't make sense. I have taken lots and stacking them. It is not a pill and then goes away. You spread filth. I understand the pain and suffering. I can't believe it gets worse than what I went through. Prostatitis is a complex thing. There can be multiple reasons to get it and have it.

Try and give something worth helping someone rather than just being so negative and depressing. Don't make people quit before they start. This is not a rant site. It is about people sharing and helping. To scratch something off your list make sure it is done right.
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Harry your mental health is in question and I am sure equal to your physical.

Harry you may just have a different type. One that you have to find.

Antifungals causing prostate pain just doesn't make sense. I have taken lots and stacking them. It is not a pill and then goes away. You spread filth. I understand the pain and suffering. I can't believe it gets worse than what I went through. Prostatitis is a complex thing. There can be multiple reasons to get it and have it.

Try and give something worth helping someone rather than just being so negative and depressing. Don't make people quit before they start. This is not a rant site. It is about people sharing and helping. To scratch something off your list make sure it is done right.
okay. thanks for your reply helpmyprostate..please check facts below

I wanna type this again though...

https://ukpmc.ac.uk/abstract/MED/2452...5MNLxUd4aC8H.6

It takes 1,000 micrograms to equal 1 milligram. that antibiotic pill we are taking is usually between 100 - 500 milligrams.

so for example if you are taking that trimethoprim, doxycycline, cipro etc
you are getting about 1 microgram of that pill into your prostate.

I want to add if a person took 2 ciprofloxacin a day for a total of 12 months he still would not get 1 milligram into his prostate.

The math - 2 cipro per day = 2 micrograms - 2x30 = 60 micrograms

which would mean 60 micrograms of cipro in the prostate every 30 days. If cipro was taken for a year
60 micrograms x 12 months the total concentration of ciprofloxacin in the prostate would be 720 micrograms.
1 year of ciprofloxacin every day and still not even 1 milligram of the 500 milligram pill has entered the prostate yet. I don't think most people are aware of this

when we take that pill, medication bits of it are going into various parts of the body tendons, muscles, lungs, heart, tissues of the legs, arms, testicles, penis, bladder, eye balls, hands, feet and everything else in the body. their in lays a major problem because you need the entire drug in the area you are fighting and not shooting through out the entire body
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you could probably find a way to order the antibiotic of your choice over the internet. I would hesitate signficantly about injecting an oral medication though. Some of these drugs will ulcerate your tissues if not properly formulated for injection.

I will say also that putting all the drug into the prostate may signficantly damage the prostate. The dosages are designed to permeate all the tissues about equally in the body. Although some things have a harder time getting into the prostate meg dosing could do damage elsewhere and still not signficantly get into the prostate either.

Did you try mms1 and mms2? along with mms1 applied topically over the perineium with DMSO?
If you have not tried mms then you have not tried everything mentioned on this thread.

I received an article the other day from Dr Jonathan Wright. He says that the single nutrient called Beta Sitosterol can be very effective in some cases. He has a product call Ultimate Pro Support for the situation. Its about $25 a bottle 1-800-817-2575
product # I6NN4A

This product is also recommended by Dr Douglas. Wright and Douglas are very high on my list for integrity and innovation and taking care of business.
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Update : Prostatitis is now worse than it has been the past almost 2 years. joints are sore all over, out of breath, lots of pain, feel like the life is being sucked out of me, very weak,
even started vomiting earlier because I felt so sick. ejaculation is very painful I can feel blockage in me when I ejaculate. erection is deader than usual. took temperature this morning and was at 104. don't feel like updating but need to keep record of this stuff for people to see.
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First, I concur with Arrowwind09 about Dr. Wright and Dr. Douglas and that Beta Sitosterol would be worth a try. However, in addition to that, I suggest that you try daily dosing with what many alternative physicians consider to be the silver bullet of colloidal silvers - MesoSilver. To save time, go to my reply to Josy at the end of the following thread (first Link below) where you can read all about it. In addition, all of the active Links are there for you to read Testimonials about its use to treat various infectious conditions, including Prostate Infection, as well as a Link to purchase it. I have used it myself a couple of times for what I believe was the beginning of a stomach ulcer and also for a sinus condition with great success, and now always keep a couple of bottles on hand.

Just keep in mind that as with other natural antibiotics, some of which also have antiviral and/or antifungal activity, such as olive leaf extract (18 to 20% oleuropein) and raw, organic Manuka Honey (16+ or higher), it can take what might seem like relatively high doses, e.g., 6 Tablespoons/day of MesoSilver, and longer to effect the desired response than what one might expect with pharmaceuticals. (In that respect, after reading the Testimonials for Prostate Infection, as suggested below, it would be worth your while to read the Testimonials for some of the other infectious conditions and to note the length of time and the dosage others found necessary to achieve relief.) However, in addition to often superior performance, the advantage of going the natural route is that the possibility of adverse side effects is practically nil, as opposed to the use of pharmaceuticals.

After reading the Testimonials for Prostate Infection, to read about other infectious conditions, scroll back up to almost the top of the page where you will see on the left hand side of the page a list of blue topic Links. To first read those about Prostate Infection, you can just hit the second Link below; the first Link is for my reply to Josy as described above:

/f73/1279-staph-infection.html

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Update : Prostatitis is now worse than it has been the past almost 2 years. joints are sore all over, out of breath, lots of pain, feel like the life is being sucked out of me, very weak,
even started vomiting earlier because I felt so sick. ejaculation is very painful I can feel blockage in me when I ejaculate. erection is deader than usual. took temperature this morning and was at 104. don't feel like updating but need to keep record of this stuff for people to see.
First, I wondered why you would choose a dead guy as your avatar, then I looked at my own..

Every time you take an antibiotic, you make your health problems worse. Therefore, it is only logical to assume taking a good probiotic a couple times a day would be a good start. Are you doing this?

Vitamin C kills bacteria, viruses, and fungi, however small doses won't kill anything. You need to take at least 1000mg per hour for every hour you are awake, then take 2000mg before bed and first thing in the morning. You can take buffered C such as calcium ascorbate, or as much ascorbic acid as your bowels can handle. You may get the runs, but so what, it would be good to get cleaned out. Are you doing this?

You also need to boost your immune system to a point where it can actually fight infections. That means taking lots of vitamin D3, resveratrol, beta glucan, pine bark, curcumin, fish oil, and green vegetable concentrated powders. Are you doing this?

Don't underestimate the power of colloidal silver, just get some in your blood every day, as well as oil of oregano, and grapefruit seed extract. Are you doing this?

Use virgin organic coconut oil to fry with instead of whatever you are using now. Are you doing this?

Don't expect anyone to fix you, that you must do yourself.

Start by researching ozone medical treatments.

Are you doing this?
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woke up this morning feels like I have bladder infection hurts to piss. and am very worn out can barley stand up going to doctor. my luck they still won't find anything will keep posted
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Doctor believes I have an infection he said white blood count was high in urine. urine sent to lab to culture. as for now back on the cipro for 10 days Will keep posted. but I have a bad feeling they will F this up some how and the doctors visit will turn out to be wasted money. because it never fails.. doctors always end up screwing me in the end.
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You need to scroll around this website Harry. It is a natural medicine site. People that are against antibiotics. You have to ask yourself why. Cipro is a terrible thing to take. I had highly white blood cells in my urine too. At some point the blame falls on us. If you have a bacteria I hope it works. However you might be creating a secondary infection. Fungus is real. Look around this website. It is not a men's prostate site. Most people end up here after having taken antibiotics or know enough not to take them unless life threatening. Don't give up.
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Antibiotic resistance could bring end of modern medicine

ABC news reports as of march 2012 that all antibiotics are fixing to become obsolete, and that the days of dying from simple infections such as strep throat or a scrape knee are fixing to become a reality.


https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2...dern-medicine/

According to a guy in the comments section of that article he says that 100,000 people are expected to die this year in America from antibiotic resistant bacterial infections.

Looks like humanity will ultimately be exterminated either by a damn virus or bacteria bug or through war, anybody notice that the world is going further into war ? How long before a world war pops off and we end up in an all out nuclear war. In fact I have seen way to many articles over the last few years talking about world war 3 , it almost seems like humanity is aware of its own fate......
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Antibiotic resistance could bring end of modern medicine
This is already happening. In fact there are antibiotic resistant pneumonia strains that are coming our way, and will kill more people than cancer and heart disease combined.

And is also a good reason to have a colloidal silver generator, mms on hand, and oil of oregano in the medicine cabinet.
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The results which seemed to take forever came in today. I went and saw the doctor and tested positive for enterococcus and e coli. I knew I had an infection even though everybody on this website kept telling me I didn't.
I'm glad I found what was causing this, but I still can't get any treatment for it. I told the doctor for some reason the antibiotics can clear the infection from the bladder but not the prostate, he said that he has never heard of such and that I was making this up and that I did not have prostatitis because my prostate was not swollen. we argued over this, I was so sick last night I thought I was going to die, I had never been as bad as last night, I awoke from a dream in severe pain around 5 am, soaked in sweat with tears in my eyes, I thought my body was fixing to die at any second, I had never felt so ran down in my life.

I told this to the doctor and he told me I was just making this up because I felt sorry for myself.

And just like I had originally predicted the infection was sensitive to the most commonest antibiotics. which means for some reason antibiotics aren't killing the infection inside the prostate.

In the end he told me my bladder infection is gone and that I can go home now. so I still have all my prostatitis symptoms, know what the bacteria is now and still can not get any real medical treatment for this. once again the bastards have screwed me.

I could barley walk this morning, my legs were so shaky, and am starting to get a sore throat, and yet the doctor even though he found the infection acted like I was still nothing more than a hypochondriac. I finally snapped from anger and exhaustion and started cursing and grabbed the wooden chair in the room and beat it over the counter until it broke as the doctor quickly left the room.

ciprofloxacin turned out to be the drug of choice for both infections, but my god, I have taken enough cipro to kill a water buffalo but it never gets rid of it.
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