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Old 03-24-2012, 12:26 PM
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read up on pomegranate juice and prostate cancer. Might be worth taking it!!!

Anyway, I noticed after I was drinking "innocent smoothies" which has a mix of berries, including pomegranate, and I've been waking up with good erections every single morning. Which is rather unusual lol. Yes I get them more frequently now, but every time I wake up throughout the morning I have an erection LoL.

So check out this;
Pomegranate juice protects nitric oxide against oxidative destruction and enhances the biological actions of nitric oxide.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1...ct&holding=npg

Now think of taking Pycnogenol (up regulates eNOS! so there is more nitric oxide) and L-arginine. https://www.prelox.com/pdf/prelox_research.pdf

Could be a good solution for those that have erection problems because of prostatitis. Hehe

120mg Pycnogenol per day
3g of L-arginine per day
POM X or pomegranate juice.

Test it out
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Old 03-24-2012, 01:03 PM
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Good points here.
Iwillbecured, sorry if i repeat myself, but you have stated several times, that your condition is better now, or almost all symptoms dissappeared.
Now, would be so kind and summon up your healing process in several points indicating what worked best to battle all symptoms.
Currently, i am struggling with stinging pain (like spasms) in the abdominal arena and its a burning sensation, wonder if this is part of the non- bacterial prostatitis (culture is negative) symptoms, or i am developing again bacterial prostatitis ?
And what do you think about COLOIDAL SILVER ?

Thanks for that.
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Old 03-24-2012, 04:35 PM
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I don't know anything about Coloidal silver other than by using too much you go blue? lol.

Yes the PROSTATE symptoms and pain are all gone still. Apart from the minor bladder infection I just recently developed (which was treated successfully).

What worked best? I can't say because I think everything worked together as I expected they would. I'll list the things I did.

Doxycycline - 200mg a day (if this works you might get away with 100mg a day for 3 months or longer).
Trimethoprim - Did a shorter course at 400mg a day (don't even remember how long now, it's all on here). (don't take at the same time as doxy)
Now Foods Quercetin + Bromelain (4-6 capsules a day)
Allicin Max (10 capsules a day for many months, now I take around 4-5 a day)
Pycnogenol - 120mg a day
L arginine 3000mg a day
L theanine - 400mg a day
Now foods Adam Multi - 2 capsules a day
Now foods - Beta glucan
Cranberry Juice
Stretching 2-3 times a day, conscious relaxation and reverse kegels.
Healthy origins 30 billion probiotic 1-2 a day (I should have started when I took the antibiotics but I didn't).
Manuka honey - Good for calming stomach problems

Also if you get any fungus on the head of the penis from antibiotics you can just open up a allimax or allicin max capsule and mix it with some anti-fungal cream and it kills it within a day. Good tip there it works!

I've taken AHCC for 6 months also which had a really good effect on symptoms (but it's expensive). AHCC is probably better than beta glucan.

I can't stress this enough though, I want to make it totally clear to everyone. Every time I started on an antibiotic I would have a huge initial improvement in my symptoms, especially if I was in the middle of a flare. Flare ups during treatment were common and welcomed as a sign of healing. Every time I had a flare up I would feel better after it and my symptoms would improve further, then I'd have another flare which would be less intense and each flare would take longer to come on and be milder in intensity.

Having the infection made me feel very ill during a flare. I would would lose my appetite, get a mild fever, feel sick all the time, flu-like symptoms and the more common symptoms of frequent urination, burning urination, and pain. The pain is something that takes longer to go away and that is probably more related to muscles. The systemic systems related to infection. It's so damn OBVIOUS that muscle tension is a huge part of this problem (especially if the problem has gone on for years) that you cannot ignore it. DO NOT ignore it.

When I would reverse kegel and/or stretch the muscles in my whole lower pelvis would flutter rapidly. Like 20 rapid twitches of the muscles in the perineum area within the space of a few seconds. I would at times get so relaxed that I would feel tingling sensation, like a rush of blood that you feel when your hand comes back to life after you have a dead arm cos you've been lying on it. You know the feeling? Then surprise, surprise! I would urinate after these relaxation sensations and the urination stream would be FASTER. If I would do the relaxation before bed I would be more likely to wake up with morning erections also. Even my libido increases after doing the stretches and relaxation.

Infection was a factor in my condition and I can't really put my finger on it or explain how different the symptoms are, but there is a difference. I intuitively realized as some point that something was different, that it felt more 'muscle related' than before. I don't know at what point during the therapy this happened though. Antibiotics like doxycycline are used in patients for years. Some people take them months or years. Very very safe. Doxycycline even works as an anti inflammatory. So if you're not getting the antibiotic effect, you're benefiting from an anti inflammatory effect of it. I don't personally think it's dangerous and I don't think the cause of prostatitis is fungal at all. Even though I've had fungus on the head of my penis during antibiotics it's never actually caused any irritation or symptoms. Don't be afraid of antibiotics (well unless you're taking quinolones! lol - they're dangerous!). You need to feel some effect though from taking the antibiotics. you'll more likely notice this effect if you take it during a flare. But then again, the antibiotic might not work against your bacteria... we are all different.

The supplements however do in animal studies reverse resistance than bugs have against antibiotics by various methods. One of the ways some of these supplements do it is by blocking Efflux pumps on the bacteria so that more of the drug accumulates inside the bacteria and the bacteria can't pump it out quick enough.

An example of this is here
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16175202

"Using this combination, cell viability was reduced by 99.9% and 72.5% in MSSA and MRSA populations, respectively. PGME increased the post-antibiotic effect (PAE) of ampicillin from 3 to 7 h. In addition, PGME demonstrated the potential to either inhibit the efflux pump NorA or to enhance the influx of the drug. The detection of in vitro variant colonies of S. aureus resistant to PGME was low and they did not survive. In conclusion, PGME dramatically enhanced the activity of all antibiotics tested, and thus, offers an alternative for the extension of the useful lifetime of these antibiotics."

In total though I have taken antibiotics for years. Did it do me any obvious harm? Not really? lol. In the last 10 years I've looked after my health so well it looks like I've aged backwards. (28 years old almost and I still look 17 years old ).

Everyone lately comments how healthy I'm looking. So those supplements will help you get healthy, even if they don't have a massive effect on prostatitis.

I always did fight this condition and never gave up. I did spend thousands on tying to beat it. At first I was able to manage the condition with just Cranberry juice and/or D mannose. They worked so well, until symptoms spread and go worse. Yeah they help 'bladder issues' but never did nothing for the prostate.

Think of it as a war, you have to keep fighting, don't give your enemy a chance to come back. Keep fighting until you win. You may lose battles, but you won't lose the war if you keep fighting it.
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Old 03-24-2012, 05:04 PM
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johny1 I have taken two lots of silver water. It helped a little. look back at iwillbecured,s posts starting from around April May last year. There is a lot of information on this thread,you just need to look back through the pages.
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Old 03-27-2012, 09:55 AM
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Thanks for the extensive reply iwillbecured.
I do agree with everything, but slightly disagree with the extensive use of doxy (3 months).
Have you taken it on the bases of culture (semen, urine) or just for the sake of it ?

My 5 week Trim therapy have eliminated 2 pathogens (klebsiela and enterococus). Semen culture was negative 2 times in row, so i guess it shall not turn possitive any time soon. OR will it ?? I will be periodically checking it to be sure, though the hot looking medical assistants in the lab, where i do my tests think i am slightly hypochondric (they giggled all the time when i was sitting there). This propelled me to rapidly gain their sympathy by buying them some hot coffee (and muffins) and having a long chat with them in the morning. Now, thats a good strategy if you are a frequent visitor in such labs..
I probably shall not take quonolones as my culture is negative so there is no need to mess up my body system with "poison".

I will give proper diet a try. I have read multiple reports showing that proper digestion eliminating sugars, milk and junk food creates balance in the gut, which consiquently balances the whole body. You probably are aware that i have started with a brocolli broth 2x a day, but now i am eliminating all acidic foods (no coffee and alcohol ect, sugars or milk proteins). My coloidal silver has arrived at 14 ppm strenght, so i should give this a try (for at least 5 months), rather than a standard atb. But i may turn blue in the end...which i am fully aware.

Symptoms seem to be still focused in the abdominal arena (burning and spasms). But i am doing my kegels and streches as adviced. CPPS is tricky. By far the worst consistent buring pain, i have experienced in my whole life.
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My coloidal silver has arrived at 14 ppm strenght, so i should give this a try (for at least 5 months), rather than a standard atb. But i may turn blue in the end...which i am fully aware.
Properly made colloidal silver won't turn you blue. In fact, you could drink the whole bottle every day for a year and not turn blue.

Its only if you add salt to the solution, (like Paul the blue man did) that you create silver hydroxide, and not colloidal ionic silver.
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Harry, have you ever tried D mannose?

I'll give it a whirl, can you recommend a brand of D mannose to try ?
Anybody ? Also am i looking for the D mannose powder to mix into something and drink or capsules to swallow ? Anybody ?
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ok guys this what's up with me as of late... up and down back forth.. one min I think I'm on track next I'm messed up all over again these past two days ( tues.wed) have been great as far as my testicles and lower ab ( witch is the only place I ever get pain) pain goes but all of a sudden I have so much pain in my left hip I can hardly walk but I tell you this I would limp forever if it means the other symptoms go away ...but that's not gonna happen...cuz ..today as my hip pain lessens I feel my real symptoms coming back I think I might have over stretch my hip flexor
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You drink the D mannose in water. Now Foods D mannose is fine. So is waterfall D mannose. Both have worked for bladder infections in the past. It cured my sister of her bladder infection before as well. It does work and definitely worth a try. Getting rid of any bladder and urethra symptoms can help a lot. Don't drink cranberry at the same time as drinking D mannose. Just drink it with a lot of water every 3 hours.
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I just wanted to forward this. I have not tested this way.....might help someone get answers.

https://sementesting.org/index.php/pr...reatment1.html
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:17 PM
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Just One of my updates people
I think I am better than I was 18 months ago thanks to you guys.I dont get a lot of pain.
I still get the fullness after a day or so if I dont ejaculate I cant seem to be able to get rid of that but I can cope with it a little better.
The best I felt when I was on trim for about six weeks then I introduced beta glucan towards the end so maybe I will try it again.
This is my regime at moment.
quercetin
bromelian
cranberry tablets and juice
allicin max
zinc
pycnogenol
doxy
probiotic tablets
arginine
fish oil tablets
streching and a little yoga and exercise
A very good diet no rubbish food.
I am still convinced I have some kind of infection but I am not sure I will ever cure it.
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Old 03-31-2012, 01:24 PM
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I just wanted to forward this. I have not tested this way.....might help someone get answers.

https://sementesting.org/index.php/pr...reatment1.html
Good link that tex I wonder If I could get that to the uk.
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Thought I would share this article. I missed this, but it's like what I've said in the past about infection being either cured or in remission, but symptoms continue (for a while).

As Robert Pickard, professor of urology at Newcastle University, explains, scientists now believe that naturally occurring ‘bug-busting’ chemicals — anti-microbial peptides (AMPs) — may play a role.
These kill bugs in the body, but it appears that in people with interstitial cystitis, these chemicals are being produced continually even after an infection has gone.
‘It’s as if the defence system has not been turned off even though the initial threat has been dealt with — a bit like a trigger-happy soldier firing in the absence of any enemy,’ says Professor Pickard.


Read more: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz1qzFOvqvo
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So has anybody gotten completely cured of this yet, other than iwillbecured..

I notice a lot of people talk about how in the beginning the antibiotics worked for them, then eventually they stop working altogether.
Hell, I've even took antibiotics that are not supposed to even be used for prostatitis at all, and yet they make the prostate pain worse

I recently read a comment somewhere, may have been off prostatitis ning website. Where this guy says he has had chronic prostatitis for 20 yrs, said that he even was prescribed antibiotics for 6 months at one point and how they never did him any good. I know in the span of 19 months I've hit a glass door, punched walls, punched the floor, punched brick walls, cursed a doctors staff out, got into it yelling at a urologist, threatened to commit suicide and had a nurse call me up threatening to have me arrested, and have seriously thought of driving car right through a pharmacy after closing hours and loading back pack up full of antibiotics and pain pills.

With that being said; many men have lost wives, jobs, even committed suicide over this disease. And it seems like doctors are utter useless in helping with this disease at all.

somebody post some good news, I think we all could use some.
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Remission is probably a better word to use. Harry, have you tried out the d mannose yet or no? It's really cheap and you'll know if it does anything in 1-2 days. Yeah trimethoprim gradually become less effective over time for me as well. It took longer to start working and the standard low dose didn't work anymore. So these bugs do become more resistant over time. One thing that some people might find happen is that they get a good improvement of symptoms when they start the antibiotic but then during the course they start getting wore again. This is just survival of the fittest. You're killing off the weaker bugs and letting the stronger more resistant ones grow and then your infection is resistant. After discontinuation of antibiotics resistant bacteria can go down after about a month. They know this from giving people trimethoprim and having resistant bacteria account for 90% of the sample. Then after one month it goes back down to normal levels (around 30%), whatever they baseline was. There ARE some new antibiotics in development for complicated urinary tract infections. Gonna be a few years yet though! Just hang in there harry. You WILL be cured. You do NOT have this for the rest of your life. Medical technology is advancing at a rapid rate than before. A prediction; No-one will have this beyond 2020. ;p

to lovelife; if you're not getting along well with 100mg of doxycycline you can increase to 200mg a day (100mg every 12 hours)
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