Nice to hear about your updates lovelife. I now you are doing the treatment from the prostate-massage site. Hey I wonder are you also doing the internal massage with the drumstick as described in the following page?
I am actually thinking of trying this myself to see if it helps with the tip of urethra burning. However for me the target place would not be so much the prostate but rather the muscles in the immediate vicinity. By the way when someone does prostate massage it is also a limited levator ani muscle massage since the prostate is sitting on that muscle.
I also thought that it was strange that you started developing symptoms so quickly after the oral sex event. I had infections that way two times and both times symptoms did not show up for about 10 days. I read so many threads about stds and I do not recall anyone mentioning about symptoms in 24 hours.
I did not get full blown prostatitis of course but I started getting some discomfort in my urethra yer within 24 hours.I got chlamydia twice before so I knew I had something.
I did not get the right drugs straight away and within about four weeks It went into my prostate.
I bought a proper tool for massaging my prostate and believe you me it helps a lot and I always manage to drain some fluid.
I took silver water for about two weeks at 12 ppm and 10oz a day.It did help but I started to get some burning pain in my kidneys so I stopped taking it.
I will maybe start again in the future at a lower dose.I did buy properly prepared silver from a reputable company in the uk.
Probably said this before but you can live with this if you dont get cured.I have managed to get married and bring two children into this world while I have had this.
I developed a inguinal hernia in Jan 2011 and I am starting to thing that this is what has made things so bad.I mean had prostatitis for 14 years and treated it with nothing for the biggest part of that and I lived with it.
Also these uros they all say the same thing it all comes from a text book.The last uro I saw in Jan said to me it burns itself out and a previous one said that to me about 13 years ago.They could could do with getting prostatitis for a couple of months then they will understand a little more.
I bought a proper tool for massaging my prostate and believe you me it helps a lot and I always manage to drain some fluid.
I developed a inguinal hernia in Jan 2011 and I am starting to thing that this is what has made things so bad.
Interesting what you say about the inguinal hernia. In the back of my mind I am also thinking about a hernia as my discomfort feels like a swelling or a heavy spot in the abdominal area. How did you get diagnosed for the hernia? I do not see a clear bulging but this is not always a prerequisite for a hernia. By the way a hernia can make CPPS worse (further proof that there is a big muscular component on all this)
By the way this week I am planning to do a test drive of prostate massage using the following instructions. I found this info in the chronicprostatitis site. I am not including the thread because only paying members can view it and I suppose most people here are not members there.
1) Squat on your toilet. Put your feet on the toilet seat, in a squat position. Unless you're in a country that doesn't have toilet seats.
2) Anyway, just get in a squat position. Against a wall is fine. Be naked though. Now. Grab your left butt cheek with your left hand and pull up and out. Hold it. Repeat. Feel the stretch. This stretch will reach all the way internally up to the prostate. Do the right side
3) While in the squat position, grab both butt cheeks and pull up and out. Hold repeat.
4) ....remember, while in the squat position really focus on relaxing the pelvic muscles. Almost like you are trying to defecate or urinate, but not quite.
5) When going internal for the first time, just be very gentle with yourself. The area you want to get to is around the prostate.
6) Stand in front of your bathroom mirror. Put your left foot on the counter. Have both hands gloved. Lube the left middle finger (or whatever finger you feel comfortable with, I like middle because it is longer) and gentle insert into the rectum.
7) Now make a little hook with your finger and pull out and down. Hold. Notice what you notice. Do the other side. Again, this will stretch the insertions of the prostate. Which is what you want.
8) See if you can gently feel the prostate. Don't jab. Just start moving your finger towards your bladder. The prostate is just dead straight ahead when you enter with a finger. This diagram is all over the net.
9) Whether you find the prostate or not, make some light sweeps back and forth while inside the rectum. Notice the feelings.
10) Don't stress about "hurting" yourself. You would really have to be aggressive to do this, but be gentle in the beginning all the same.
11) Especially when you are at 12 o'clock (directly on the prostate and urethra). Avoid forceful contact while inside 11 and 1 on the pelvic clock.
The first few times may be frustrating, but you will get better with practice. You don't need a physical therapist. Its much easier for you to do it yourself, because you can "feel" what is going on.
Anyone has tried this? I am really hoping to get a hang of it and this might help to release tension around the prostate.
Just an update. I developed an infection in my bladder;
Frequent urination
Burning pain
Stinging in my bladder
Feeling pressure on my bladder (like pushing out)
Mild fever 37.4
Loss of appetite
Started on Trimethoprim at 400mg a day and after 1 day my symptoms have already disappeared. The symptoms were different from the prostatitis I had before as these symptoms were all confined to the bladder. As I said before; I've always had urinary infections growing up from a child. Just thought I'd share that anyway! For me I know that bacteria was the cause of my prostatitis/ cpps, which did result in pelvic floor dysfunction. But antibiotics always worked for me in a very positive way. (like night and day difference)
I've had similiar symptoms and antibiotics have had a positive effect on me. Maybe that might work on me? Why made the doctor prescribe you that instead of Cipro or Levaquin? Just curious.
Because 3 doses of Cipro messed up my life for 2 years by causing chronic tendinitis on both feet, chronic insomnia and nerve damage, among other problems. Shame I wasn't able to take it! Most men do get cured from cipro.
Guys I have been on the candida diet for a while. Stretching at night and taking a couple of things. Everything was doing ok....or manageable.
I added a couple of herbs that made me flair up badly...... it just made my heart drop. Kidney pain, visiting the toilet every ten min, and prostate pain that just sent chills up and down my spine......and the boys.
I started drinking water with sea salt in it and after three days I started feeling better. I also started a round of Lufeneron I bought a couple of months ago but never could get the nerve to use it.
I can say this. If you feel that you have a fungal problem....Luferneron will let you know if you do. You take it for three days...and then wait. If you have die off, you will know. On the fourth day it hit me and I am still feeling it and I am on day 10...I think.
Weird things might happen. I pissed ten different directions on the fifth day.....then it calmed down. I have a bad sinus infection and sore throat. I believe all of it is due to fungus die off.
I am going to do a two more rounds of this stuff and see were it takes me. I am not saying that this is a cure.....but I feel better. Wore out but better. I have read about the Dr. "B" protocol for candida, and I am going to try it or something like it.
Even after this...I still go back and forth about antibiotics. In the back of my mind I feel like I need to attack both at the same time. In my hillbilly thinking....they overlay each other so that it is hard to cure. Biofilm or Candida covering an old bacteria infection....heck I dont know. I know this, Infections....suck.
Anyone had any postitive results with COLOIDAL SILVER at 5 ppm ?
Do you consider its long term use safe - or at least good for prostatitis (bacterial or nonbacterial) ? What are your experiences ?
Interesting what you say about the inguinal hernia. In the back of my mind I am also thinking about a hernia as my discomfort feels like a swelling or a heavy spot in the abdominal area. How did you get diagnosed for the hernia? I do not see a clear bulging but this is not always a prerequisite for a hernia. By the way a hernia can make CPPS worse (further proof that there is a big muscular component on all this)
By the way this week I am planning to do a test drive of prostate massage using the following instructions. I found this info in the chronicprostatitis site. I am not including the thread because only paying members can view it and I suppose most people here are not members there.
1) Squat on your toilet. Put your feet on the toilet seat, in a squat position. Unless you're in a country that doesn't have toilet seats.
2) Anyway, just get in a squat position. Against a wall is fine. Be naked though. Now. Grab your left butt cheek with your left hand and pull up and out. Hold it. Repeat. Feel the stretch. This stretch will reach all the way internally up to the prostate. Do the right side
3) While in the squat position, grab both butt cheeks and pull up and out. Hold repeat.
4) ....remember, while in the squat position really focus on relaxing the pelvic muscles. Almost like you are trying to defecate or urinate, but not quite.
5) When going internal for the first time, just be very gentle with yourself. The area you want to get to is around the prostate.
6) Stand in front of your bathroom mirror. Put your left foot on the counter. Have both hands gloved. Lube the left middle finger (or whatever finger you feel comfortable with, I like middle because it is longer) and gentle insert into the rectum.
7) Now make a little hook with your finger and pull out and down. Hold. Notice what you notice. Do the other side. Again, this will stretch the insertions of the prostate. Which is what you want.
8) See if you can gently feel the prostate. Don't jab. Just start moving your finger towards your bladder. The prostate is just dead straight ahead when you enter with a finger. This diagram is all over the net.
9) Whether you find the prostate or not, make some light sweeps back and forth while inside the rectum. Notice the feelings.
10) Don't stress about "hurting" yourself. You would really have to be aggressive to do this, but be gentle in the beginning all the same.
11) Especially when you are at 12 o'clock (directly on the prostate and urethra). Avoid forceful contact while inside 11 and 1 on the pelvic clock.
The first few times may be frustrating, but you will get better with practice. You don't need a physical therapist. Its much easier for you to do it yourself, because you can "feel" what is going on.
Anyone has tried this? I am really hoping to get a hang of it and this might help to release tension around the prostate.
I bought this one Kite surfer.It works well. https://www.bondara.co.uk/vibrating-prostate-massager
Yes I had a clear bulging and I had an op on it last June.Where did you find evidence of it worsening symptoms?
When I do the massage I ejaculate first before I do it. Its a little tricky at first but you get the hang of it .
". This is supported by evidence of both bacterial DNA23 and cultured �cryptic� bacteria20 detected in prostate biopsies and prostatic fluid of patients with sterile cultures. As many as 50% of transperineal prostatic biopsies in patients with chronic inflammatory prostatitis grow bacteria.24,25 Thus, the full impact of infection remains unresolved in chronic inflammatory prostatitis." https://jac.oxfordjournals.org/content/46/2/157.full
Wasn't going to post just to be posting, unless I have a new development or something has happened. Well I'm starting to think I may have a kidney problem with my right kidney. I suspect a kidney problem after the contrast dye. I know Ibuprofen can slow down blood flow to kidneys, I forgot about that and read on a couple of websites where doctors would recommend
800 mg Ibuprofen 3 times a day. On the second day of doing this, I got very bad ill, my right kidney area was killing me and it was very painful, I thought I was going to have to go to the ER, the pain lasted 4 hours total and it kept increasing with lots of pain that shot up around the right side of my stomach as well. Ended up puking a few times it was very painful. The pain slowly stopped, scared the crap out of me. As for today I am very worn out more than usual and the affects of last night had the following on me
Joints are sore all in my body and hurt like hell, especially in the arms,
my balls burn and hurt pretty bad, a$$hole/rectal pain worse, I usually don't have much urinary frequency usually its pretty normal stuff, today I am peeing like crazy and it burns : mainly drop drop dribble dribble stuff , pelvic area is very very sore. Still waiting for the one urologist to get back from vacation, and I want to get some type of scan no contrast dye to check out both my kidneys and then ultra sound of my prostate.
My family genetics is awful everything from bladder infections,kidney infections, kidney stones, prostatitis and prostate cancer travels all in my family grr ..........like the picture lovelife.......
Harry Crumb signing off
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My names not harry crumb. I just like the movie !!
harry....do yourself some good by drinking some sea salt water. Three times a day.....1/4 teaspoon. Also take some magnesium for your arms. If you are peeing all the time all the salt and magnesium is leaving your body. If it is foaming pee......protein. I dont know if it is true but I feel that the muscle pain is do to all three. Vitamin C 1000 mg every three hours might help as well.
I bought this one Kite surfer.It works well. https://www.bondara.co.uk/vibrating-prostate-massager
Yes I had a clear bulging and I had an op on it last June.Where did you find evidence of it worsening symptoms?
When I do the massage I ejaculate first before I do it. Its a little tricky at first but you get the hang of it .
Thanks for the link. I tried to go in with my finger a couple of days ago and do some internal stretching. I cannot say that I had any luck but I will try again. I was a bit nervous at the beginning and kept postponing it but in the end it is not a big deal. I think I did not go far enough to reach the prostate but it is kind of hard with the fingers although I have relatively long fingers. I may order one of those vibrators in the future although I am concerned that the Thai authorities will confiscate it in the customs as they will think it is a sex toy. Can you believe that I cannot even access the above website as it is blocked? I have to use a proxy to see it
By the way I went to a surgeon and he found a spot that he told me is very likely it will evolve into an inguinal hernia in the future. There is a bulging on either side of the groin which is normal for every person but it seems that the bulging on the right side is a little bigger than the left one when I cough. To be honest I think that this was a pre-existing condition but maybe CPPS made it more pronounced. I am not really concerned about this as hernias are easily treated and as far as I am concerned it may never bother me. I just need to keep an eye of it. Did you use open or laparoscopic surgery?
I never saw any studies connecting hernias to CPPS. However, I do read several posts in the chronicprostatitis site of people whose hernias symptoms were interfering with CPPS symptoms. The conclusion was that if there is a hernia that needs to be fixed it must be done as it may contribute to the CPPS problem.
harry....do yourself some good by drinking some sea salt water. Three times a day.....1/4 teaspoon. Also take some magnesium for your arms. If you are peeing all the time all the salt and magnesium is leaving your body. If it is foaming pee......protein. I dont know if it is true but I feel that the muscle pain is do to all three. Vitamin C 1000 mg every three hours might help as well.
Vitamin c makes my symptoms worse, I was watching a video by a young girl who has cystitis. I was amazed at all the things she was saying sounded like my symptoms. I also did some googling and looked at foods you avoid if you have cystitis. And what I saw shocked me, the ones that stuck out to me were tomatoes, peppers, energy drinks, protein shakes
I have had lots of trouble in the past with energy drinks and diet pills that were used to increase energy like Ephedra, suffered from plenty of bladder infections and the doctor thought I was nuts when I stated at one point I think this is being caused by diet pills. The last time I tried a red bull many years ago within 30 or 40 minutes after drinking it, it burnt to pee. I know I didn't go to the doctor for that one, not sure if it calmed down on its own or what.
But I do know from experience that certain things (energy drinks,diet pills with ephedra) etc. I believe causes bladder irritation a form of cystitis, maybe the bladder gets inflamed and then the inflammation is so bad it turns into an infection.
Something similar to the above happened with the protein powder , except no bladder infection or any infections have been found and symptoms are much different, but here I am and once again a supplement has caused my body trouble.
And throw on that the occasional kidney trouble I am having after the contrast dye and ibuprofen the other day, makes me think back to my family genes which have bladder infections, kidney infections, prostate cancer , prostatitis, kidney stones. I think I have a genetic predisposition for urology problems. If I can just get rid of the prostate bullcrap I'll be okay, long as I avoid the things that stir up irritation and inflammation in my body. Even now with this prostate crap, I am starting to notice a lot of bladder irritation of late. Of course my case has so many weird twists and turns some of it makes sense to me and the rest of it is so crazy it makes my head spin.
I tried prostate massage and felt nothing I think I was not reaching the prostate short fingers I also tried to use the tool the guy from the site miracle massage or whatever it's called (helix) still nuttin
Harry, if you are looking up stuff.....look up sea salt and cystitis. It clears it up just like antibiotics. Lemon juice and sea salt helps the kidneys. Who knows...if done long enough it might help the prostatitis. If we drink certain things and it makes the prostate feel like we are sitting on a base ball ....the sea salt has to get to it. Protein.... boiled eggs.
The pain I had was just like yours....arms and all. I am continuing the sea salt daily and it is working for me for cystitis....(bladder infection), and my kidneys. I was peeing all the time and my right kidney hurt like heck. I feel a ton better now......I only urinated four times yesterday and I drank 72 ounces of water.
Eat good....just add the boiled eggs for added protein. Take the sea salt water on an empty stomach.....or you will be sending it out the other end.
Can you believe that I cannot even access the above website as it is blocked? I have to use a proxy to see it 
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