No, I took two weeks of Cipro, followed by 6 weeks of Levo. These were prescribed based on my symptoms. I saw absolutely no improvement while taking them, if anything I became worse.
I was very skeptical about the muscular nature of this disease, and the stretches in the 'Pain in the Pelvis' book actually irritated my prostate. However, I'm convinced the muscular discomfort I felt while I was constipated was the main trigger for my symptoms.
Thanks for the congratulations, Tex. I'm onto my 6th large beer now and still feeling good. Hopefully, this is the end of my nightmare., and I hope other members are also pain free soon.
That happened to me, doxycyline made the back pain unbearable it got a hundred time worse on doxy same with levaquin, flagyl made erections worse and gave me a weird feeling inside penis,erythromycin made erections worse and gave me a weird feeling inside penis, ceftin made it burn when I pee more then later on it made anal pain worse to the point of almost passing out, cephalexin which used to work for me now it makes erections worse and also gives me strange weird feeling in my penis, amoxicillin which is not supposed to enter the prostate made anal pain worse, omnicef which is for ear infections and sinusitis, bronchitis etc and is not used for prostatitis made my prostatitis worse, anal pain got worse and I got very ill on that medicine including the craps and plenty joint pain...
It gets weird here - diflucan taken for 3 days no affect, few days later took lots of ibuprofen 800 mg 3 times a day and felt pretty dang good was even exercising a little bit. had reaction to all the ibuprofen so stopped it. tried diflucan again and this time it irritates the prostatitis and I start getting joint pain. I have actually read that infection or disease can set off other conditions in the body including arthritis.
Imagine walking into a doctor and telling him all of this stuff above, he would think I was a mad man. None of this makes any sense why certain drugs do what they do to me.
I attended a funeral the other day and felt pretty good strangely enough,
the wooden pews in the funeral home were made where it seemed the weight was transferred to the bulk of the thighs instead of the back side,I set there a full hour with almost no anal pain, it felt good to be setting instead of laying all the time. Also drunk a pepsi which for some strange reason it did not bother me at all. And boy was that soda good, first one I have had in months damn that soda was good lol.
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If you haven't had one of these please get one. check out the link above and all of the different stuff found in patients, one guy even had some kind of lesion in his seminal vesical and calculi causing him ejaculatory problems.
One more thing, stop going to the local urologist they are not going to do anything for you. If you can get to an expert in urology who deals with chronic prostatitis you will stand a better chance getting rid of this disease, a quick google search and you find find clinics of specialists that deal with prostatitis on a daily basis. All the local urologist is gonna do is have you pee in a cup and check your prostate with his finger, he might prescribe an antibiotic and that is as far as he goes, after that he either tells you to get lost or that the symptoms are all in your head.
If you can get to the place in Arizona and have the money they could probably cure most of us on here, not all but most. These guys are prostatitis experts. link below
Diagnosis in prostatitis is difficult for all physicians, especially those who are not backed by microbiologists and pathologists specifically trained for this condition. Fortunately, at The Prostatitis Center, we have developed a great deal of knowledge about diagnosing prostatitis. Many physicians will obtain a sample of "Expressed Prostatic Secretion", the fluid that can (sometimes) be forced out of your prostate gland by the doctor's gloved finger, and send that off to the lab. However, most labs don't know what to look for and don't use proper culture techniques. Or, quite frequently, the doctor cannot extract ANY fluid upon which to do lab work! The result in any case is often a diagnosis of "non-bacterial prostatitis," "Category III CPPS" or "prostatodynia." The following two articles, while somewhat technical, give an idea of how we diagnose prostatitis here in Tucson. (You can find definitions of technical terms in Blue by holding your cursor over the word.) Serial Cytopathologic Examinations Of Expressed Prostatic Secretions From Patients With Chronic Prostatitis
John W. Polacheck, Tucson, AZ, L. Eduardo Vega, Tucson, AZ Introduction and Objectives: In order to learn more about the patho-physiology of chronic prostatitis, we examined the cytopathology of expressed prostatic secretions (EPS) from patients with chronic prostatitis. Methods: EPS was obtained by digital rectal massage, which was done at each outpatient visit. The EPS fluid was placed onto two microscope slides, air-dried and then stained with a modified Wright's stain and a PAS stain. The slides were then examined microscopically by a pathologist experienced with EPS. We were looking for signs of inflammation. Most commonly, we observed acute inflammatory changes (AIC): an exudate with numerous polymorphonuclear (PMN) leukocytes and also aggregates of PMNs which we call prostatic inflammatory aggregates (PIAs). If such findings of inflammation were not observed, a repeat EPS from a subsequent outpatient visit was similarly examined. Results: We would like to report our findings from 25 consecutive patients: in 12 (48%) patients we observed AIC in the EPS obtained from the first, second or third massage; 7 (28%) patients had AIC in the EPS obtained only later, from the 4th to 13th massage; 6 (24%) patients never showed AIC. Conclusions: We conclude that acute inflammatory changes, PMNs and PIAs, are common (76%) in the EPS from patients with chronic prostatitis. We also note that these signs of inflammation may not be present in the EPS obtained from the first outpatient massage, or even from the first few. Therefore, caution must be taken when classifying patients with symptoms and physical findings of chronic prostatitis. The laboratory findings may be misleading at the initial visit(s). A Histopathological Framework For Prostatitis
L. E. Vega and J. W. PolacheckCarondelet St. Joseph's Hospital and The Prostatitis Center: Tucson, AZ Since prostate tissue from patients with prostatitis is rarely available for histopathologic examination, we decided to study surgically removed tissue consisting of total prostatectomy specimens, as a model to study prostatitis. In all cases, the prostate gland had been removed for carcinoma. We also have studied tissue derived from transurethral resections of the prostate (TURPs) from patients with benign prostatic hypertrophy/hyperplasia (BPH). However, in general, that tissue was less satisfactory because of the small amount of prostate tissue available. Also, tissue samples obtained from TURPs are generally periurethral, and only rarely is more peripheral tissue obtained, and the anatomical relationships can not be easily reconstructed. In our study of total prostatectomies, we found areas of prostatitis in the great majority of cases. The relationship between the prostatitis and the carcinoma needs to be studied further. We observe two distinct patterns:
Chronic inflammation of the interstitium/stroma, consisting of small foci of inflammatory cells, predominately lymphocytes. This chronic interstitial inflammation is common and appears to be diffusely distributed.
Acute inflammation within glands and ducts, consisting predominately of polymorphonuclear leukocytes (PMNs).
This acute inflammation is less common than the chronic interstitial inflammation. It is focal, and usually found in the peripheral regions of the prostate gland. Frequently, acute inflammatory changes are also seen within the epithelium of glands. Only rarely is acute inflammation seen within the interstitium. Then, it is always associated with inflamed glands. We note that the PMNs within glands appear to be "organized": cohesive aggregates of PMNs with a protein matrix, at times admixed with corpora amylacea. The glands may be dilated and the aggregates of PMNs are generally larger in size than the diameter of the ducts which lead to the urethra. As we have previously reported, we find remarkably similar cohesive aggregates of PMNs in expressed prostatic secretions (EPS) from patients with prostatitis. We call these "prostatic inflammatory aggregates" (PIAs). At times PIAs are admixed with corpora amylacea supporting our premise that they are derived from inflamed glands within the prostate. Further studies are needed to study the etiology of the inflammation, the interaction between the chronic and acute inflammation, and also the relationship to patients' symptoms.
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He says according to Dr. Polacheck that every person
who visits polacheks clinic always tests positive for some kind of bacteria.
The top 3 organisms found are enterococci, staph, ecoli.
This includes men who are always diagnosed as non bacterial prostatitis by other clinics and who have already under gone prostate massages with no bacteria found. polachek also has people on 2 or 3 antibiotics at the same time. example augmentin and avelox or augmentin and bactrim. amamtili spoke to men cured by Dr Polachek and in some cases men had to take an antibiotic every day for 12 months plus prostate massages every day in order to finally beat prostatitis. The cost is $3500 from what I have read. He also relates about having gone to other urologists who told him he did not have an infection and that his symptoms were all in his head,
Which goes back to what I had stated earlier.
The local urologist can not help you . All he can do is say here is a cup now go pee in it. And that is not enough to identify anything.
Here is an excellent science article on CPPS, have a look...
Prostatodynia, now termed chronic pelvic pain syndrome (CPPS) in the male, is not a syndrome; it is not a discrete, narrowly defined constellation of consistent symptoms and objective findings ultimately traceable to a single, known etiology. CPPS in the male is a catch-all category of convenience into which physicians arbitrarily group the heterogeneous admixture of male patients who meet the following 3 criteria: (1) physicians can find no objective explanation for patient’s multivariate, long-standing symptoms; (2) a significant number of patient symptoms relate to anatomical structures located within an arbitrary radius of the prostate gland (somewhere below the umbilicus and above the midthigh); (3) physicians can offer no satisfactory treatment, let alone a cure, for patient symptoms.
Pontari and Ruggieri reviewed the numerous pathophysiologic mechanisms implicated as the potential etiologies of CPPS and concluded that, although the causes of CPPS remain unknown, the condition’s symptoms seem to arise from the interaction between psychological factors and immune, neurologic, and endocrine system dysfunction.[1]
The number of WBCs (pus cells) found in the prostatic fluid under microscopic examination—long considered the hallmark of this disease process—does not correlate with the degree of pain or with other symptoms experienced by patients with CPPS. Histologic signs of inflammation were found in only one third of all patients diagnosed with CPPS who underwent prostatic biopsy, according to Pontari and Ruggieri’s report, further suggesting an extraprostatic etiology for CPPS. This indicated that perhaps CPPS is not directly associated with the prostate or with inflammation within it, at least in some cases.
Special signaling molecules called cytokines, which are produced by WBCs (and by other cells), may play a role. While certain cytokines stimulate an inflammatory reaction, others inhibit inflammation. Moreover, the same cytokine may act as either an inciting influence or an inhibiting influence at different sites under varying conditions. Tissue necrosis factors, interleukins, interferons, and epithelial neutrophil-activating factors are but a few of these cytokines. To complicate matters, each of these terms indicates a whole, separate family of closely related molecules, not a single agent. An imbalance in this complex network of cytokines (ie, of proinflammatory cytokines and endogenous cytokine inhibitors) has been linked to the development of pelvic inflammation and pain in patients with CPPS.
Genetic predisposition to CPPS may be the result of differences in deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA) sequences at chromosomal sites that regulate the production and action of these various cytokines.
Autoimmunity, the abnormal tendency of the body to react against itself, has long been thought to play a role in the development of CPPS. In this context, immunity refers to the body's ability to reject foreign material, such as bacteria or toxins. This process can sometimes turn on itself and lead to rejection of the body's own healthy tissues. In CPPS, the body may be attempting to reject its own prostate.
Testosterone has been shown to protect against inflammation within the prostate. Perhaps a low testosterone level (or, more likely, a breakdown in the mechanism whereby testosterone inhibits prostatic inflammation) may be at work in some men with CPPS.
Abnormal functioning of the nervous system, at the local level and/or within the central nervous system (CNS), may also play a role in the development of CPPS. For example, a substance known as nerve growth factor (NGF) can cause an increase in the number and the sensitivity of the pelvic nerves that transmit pain. An increase in NGF has been correlated with the development of CPPS symptoms.
Each of the above factors has been individually identified as a culprit in the causation of CPPS; additionally, at least in some cases, they may interact with each other to cause CPPS. For instance, cytokines may adversely affect the suppression of NGF, leading to a flare of CPPS symptoms.
Psychological stress and depression have long been associated with CPPS flare-ups. This observation has led some researchers to mistakenly conclude that CPPS is "all in your head” or that such mental stress results in a lower psychological threshold for the same objective degree of pain. Data now suggest, however, that psychological stress and depression may measurably influence the local production of cytokines (eg, interleukin 10, interleukin 6) in the pelvis, thus directly exacerbating CPPS inflammation.
Some cases of "abacterial" prostatitis may not actually be abacterial. Data suggest that gram-positive bacteria, which have traditionally been dismissed as normal florae in prostatic fluid cultures, may not be so normal in men with CPPS. Normal defense mechanisms allow healthy men to render these bacteria harmless, turning them into mere microbial "hitchhikers." However, these defense mechanisms may be defective in men with CPPS. This theory helps to explain why prolonged courses of antibiotics sometimes provide symptomatic relief for men with CPPS despite the absence of bacteria that are traditionally considered pathogenic.
Pontari and Ruggieri conclude, "To what degree these factors interact in a given patient and to what degree there is a common pathway or several pathways that lead to the end point of pelvic pain remains to be determined."[1]
Fastidious b acteria in CPPS
Among the fastidious bacteria (ie, bacteria that cannot be isolated on standard culture media) that have been implicated in CPPS are Chlamydia trachomatis, the genital mycoplasmas (ie, Ureaplasma urealyticum, Mycoplasma hominis, M genitalium), a protozoan (ie, Trichomonas vaginalis), Neisseria gonorrhoeae, genital tract viruses (eg, herpes simplex virus types 1 and 2, cytomegalovirus), fungi, anaerobic bacteria, and gram-positive bacteria.
In a study by Krieger and Riley, only 10 (8%) of 135 patients with chronic prostatitis (CP)/CPPS tested positive for fastidious organisms. However, in another series, 79 (47%) of 170 specimens from patients with CP/CPPS exhibited gene sequencing (16S rDNA) that was positive for the presence of microbes, while only 21 (20%) of 117 control specimens from patients undergoing radical prostatectomy were positive (P < .01). These observations support a potential role for uncommon organisms in CP/CPPS.[2]
Bacteriologic breakthroughs in understanding CPPS
Intriguing findings from collaborating investigators in Australia and California now suggest that persistent microbial infection with an indolent, but persistent, organism that is difficult to detect and difficult for the host to eradicate may act as an etiologic agent for CP and for the subsequent development of prostate cancer.[3]
The presence of this organism, Propionibacterium acnes, could be detected only via sophisticated gene-sequencing and polymerase chain reaction (PCR) assay technology. P acnes could not be identified using routine histology, Gram stain, or routine culture techniques.
These preliminary findings suggest that chronic abacterial prostatitis may, in certain cases, actually be due to an occult, chronic bacterial infection. Further, persistence of this smoldering infection may lead to the development of prostate cancer.
Confirmation of these findings, along with the identification of effective methods to eradicate these bacteria, could lead to cure and prevention, at least in some cases, of CP and prostate cancer.
Escherichia coli infection is a common cause of acute bacterial prostatitis. However, these bacteria cannot be cultured in patients with chronic abacterial prostatitis. Certain strains of these bacteria may have developed a cloaking defense that allows them to conceal their activity and to resist antibiotic therapy.
Laboratory studies suggest that specific strains of E coli are specifically uropathogenic, ie, uropathogenic E coli (UPEC). These UPEC bacteria have the capability of penetrating into prostate cells. Once they have invaded prostate cells, they trigger a genetically linked reaction that sustains the pain by immunological and/or neurological mechanisms, even after the bacteria have been eradicated. These findings might help explain why antibiotics can be helpful in treating an initial bout of acute prostatitis, and yet be ineffective in relieving subsequent bouts. Only certain strains of E coli are capable of invading the prostate cell; some men may be more at risk than others.[4]
Biofilms develop when large numbers of bacteria embed in a microscopic slime layer called an exopolysaccharide matrix. Entrenched within this biofilm layer, the bacteria may resist antibacterial treatment, counter the human body's natural defenses, and defy detection by routine culture techniques.
By forming these biofilms within the prostate, E coli and related bacterial pathogens may cause chronic, treatment-resistant prostatitis. In some cases, they may also be the cause of chronic abacterial prostatitis. Prolonged (6-wk) courses of effective antibiotics (eg, one of the quinolones), when used to treat the first bout of acute prostatitis, may prevent the bacteria from forming a biofilm. Early, vigorous treatment of the first case of prostatitis using this method may help to prevent the inflammation from progressing into the chronic phase of bacterial or abacterial prostatitis.[5]
Neuropathy in CPPS
Findings of spastic hyperactivity in the absence of a definable underlying neuropathy from videourodynamic studies suggest the presence of either an occult neural etiology or an acquired functional voiding disorder.
Myofascial pain syndrome has been postulated as a cause for CP/CPPS. Even in the face of clinical inflammation, a reflex triggering of spasm in the musculature of the pelvic floor can be a secondary, but clinically significant, source of much of the symptomatology.[6]
Immunology in CPPS
An autoimmune basis for chronic prostatitis has been well established in different murine models. Unfortunately, a clinical correlation in humans has not yet been well elucidated.
Stromal cells in benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH) tissue have been shown to be capable of acting as antigen-presenting cells and activating CD4(+) lymphocytes, as well as producing interleukins.[7]
Several studies now demonstrate that men with CP/CPPS show evidence of having a “pan-pelvic hypersensitivity syndrome.” Using the fibromyalgia tender point scale, men with CP/CPPS tend to be more tender than normal, not only in the pelvic region, but also at every other point throughout their entire body. Whatever causes CP/CPPS leads to a serious and hard-to-treat hypersensitivity of the entire CNS. This difference in lowered pain tolerance holds true, whether or not the CP/CPPS patient was experiencing a flare-up of prostatitis.[8]
It is anti inflamatory,inhibits prostate cancer growth (clinically confirmed). I just started, on my 6 day, its very good. Long term use may cure me I hope.
Long live CURCUMA... I will see and hope its not a scam.
It is anti inflamatory,inhibits prostate cancer growth (clinically confirmed). I just started, on my 6 day, its very good. Long term use may cure me I hope.
Long live CURCUMA... I will see and hope its not a scam.
Did I ever tell anybody about the dream I had when I took iwillbecured advice and tried trimethoprim for first time and it was having a small effect. I had a dream and an old Indian war chief came to me in the dream and told me don't stop trimethoprim you take em trimethoprim for , whoever many months he said(I forget how many) and the old war chief told me prostatitis would go away.
And of course I stopped it after 6 weeks and screwed up its affect, then tried it again later and it no longer worked. My advice listen to dreams, visions etc. That is all I have today, damn rotten no good disease..
A read where a doctor had suggested to his patient with chronic prostatitis,
to ejaculate in a hot bath. The man claimed that this lessened a lot of his symptoms. Perhaps this tip will help someone on this board.
Let me also add something I recently found out. One complaint I had was certain antibiotics would make symptoms worse, my big complaint was antibiotics making anal pain bad. I have been reading a lot about Dr polacheck in Arizona and Dr Feliciano in Manila. I also read where arnon krongrad stated on his prostate forum website,i will add lib because I can't remember the exact words but to the extent of
"" That he didn't know that much about prostatitis and his thing was prostate cancer and reason he got into studying the chronic prostatitis was because of Dave radford which was first patient krongrad took out prostate for prostatitis for, and how he had researched Dr Feliciano and had learned a lot from studying Feliciano research. Again this wasn't quote for quote what krongrad said but it was along these lines.
Again I state Polacheck learned about prostatitis from studying in Manila under Dr Feliciano.
With all of that being said my point is this, I get worse anal pain when on some antibiotics and even break out burning up in fever. I thought this was very uncommon and apparently this is very common. Couple guys who Dr polacheck found bacteria in their prostate fluid and were given antibiotics sensitive to the bacteria, the patients started getting worse severe increases in anal pain and lots of fever and sweating. I was some what shocked at this that I wasn't the only one who had these things happen to me. And these guys kept getting worse and very ill, many times polacheck would prescribe tramdol to lessen the pain and it would knock out the anal pain for a bit. I have read tramdol isn't that much stronger than aleve (ibuprofen), but apparently it must be stronger to knock that kind of pain out. lovelife recommended a prostate massager wand to me, but never could get the thing to work, I've tried again and again and it will not milk my prostate. so trying to figure out a different massager to buy. According to polacheck research it will be very hard to cure prostatitis without prostate massage, he believes that prostate massage helps antibiotics get in better. whats interesting is his go to antibiotics which are avelox, bactrim and augmentin.
If people had a way to get prostate massage every other day and take avelox for like 6 months, it would probably cure half of us. avelox kills just about anything, and for guys who have enterococcus it is the go to drug even preferred over levaquin. Also if your on the antibiotics eat your yogurt so you don't get stomach probs and the sh*ts. I eat 32 0z big cup of yogurt once daily when I can. Also some times Ibuprofen can help,
I would combine a big chunk of ibuprofen with your antibiotic say Ibuprofen 600 mg 3 times a day. I'm not sure how much people read, or maybe they get tired of reading posts on this website because there are so many. But maybe my few tips can help one of you guys to ease some pain for you.......
Harry this guy has not been cured by the treatment as he himself admits in several of his posts and after taking various abx for months. A few other guys have posted in the above thread (jb, patient V, okert, Trlrguy) and have also said that this treatment has not given them any cure. Anyway I am not sure if it is worth spending any time on the above forum as it is completely uncontrolled and not monitored. Have you noticed that it is full of spam (advertisements, sex ads etc) ?
Harry this guy has not been cured by the treatment as he himself admits in several of his posts and after taking various abx for months. A few other guys have posted in the above thread (jb, patient V, okert, Trlrguy) and have also said that this treatment has not given them any cure. Anyway I am not sure if it is worth spending any time on the above forum as it is completely uncontrolled and not monitored. Have you noticed that it is full of spam (advertisements, sex ads etc) ?
Actually, we don't know if he ended up cured or not, he has ups and downs, in his very last post he notes some improvement
(( Sorry for late repl Gold,
After some initial improvement,my burning mostly gone, I still have slight burning if I sit long, but my frequency still about the same, night time frequency improved a little bit, gone down from 6~7 times to 3~4 times. Frequency urination is my main problem now. I didn't have much pain even before I went to Dr. Polacheck. ))
I did send the guy an email since his last post was from 2008 to see whatever happened with him. sent about week ago, as of yet he has not replied. Just throwing out an option is all, I still say polacheck is worth a try, at least he sticks with you and tries his butt off to cure his patients, where most urologists just abandon the patient and tell him to go live at home with the pain.
As one user puts it [the bacteria, Dr. Polacheck has a great record of finding the culprit. He uses techniques specifically designed to diagnose this disease.]
At least you get a flip of the coin with Dr. Polacheck and hope it comes up heads instead of tails. with the average doctor you don't even get that, you just get sent home to live with the disease and suffer.
How you all doing people.
Right I took 2 months of doxy.I did not do anything.Then moved on to trim for three weeks.Still nothing to report so I would say that it has built up a resistance to them.
I am now back on silver water on the dose that they have told me to take, 30ml a day for chronic infections and it is at 14 ppm.Been on this for about five days and last night I could not believe I have started getting hot sweats and my symptoms are improving.
I am not going to jump the gun but maybe there is a chance to get a little better.
How many of you are actually doing prostate massages? Please give them a try.
I know it is not a nice thing to do but when you get used to doing it it will help.
I was getting up 6 or 7 times during the night to go to the bathroom ,now I only get up once twice at the most.
This is my latest concoction. LOL..
allicin max 8 tabs a day
bromelain
quercetin
bete glucan
turmeric
l'arginine
cranberry tabs and plenty of juice
30ml of silver water a day.
Strict diet.I look like a stick, lol.
exercise and stretching.
How you all doing people.
Right I took 2 months of doxy.I did not do anything.Then moved on to trim for three weeks.Still nothing to report so I would say that it has built up a resistance to them.
I am now back on silver water on the dose that they have told me to take, 30ml a day for chronic infections and it is at 14 ppm.Been on this for about five days and last night I could not believe I have started getting hot sweats and my symptoms are improving.
I am not going to jump the gun but maybe there is a chance to get a little better.
How many of you are actually doing prostate massages? Please give them a try.
I know it is not a nice thing to do but when you get used to doing it it will help.
I was getting up 6 or 7 times during the night to go to the bathroom ,now I only get up once twice at the most.
This is my latest concoction. LOL..
allicin max 8 tabs a day
bromelain
quercetin
bete glucan
turmeric
l'arginine
cranberry tabs and plenty of juice
30ml of silver water a day.
Strict diet.I look like a stick, lol.
exercise and stretching.
Lovelife have you ever tried any cephalosporins. have any of you ever tried any cephalosporins . out of all the tons of antibiotics i ever took, cephalosporins are the only ones that ever did me any good. but once the medication is stopped it would not work anymore.
Hello fellows,
I hope you are doing fine. I had a couple of bad days - such as abdominal and even higher stomach pain (moved from left to right), so i guess it all is interconeected with non bacterial prostatitis. Has anyone ever had such pains ?
Then it all supsided to almost zero pain for 2 days and today a slight pain in the abdominal region. What a tricky disease.
I dont think it is necessary for me to take atbs as i have no bacteria in cultivation. Instead i am using the following regimen now:
KURKUMA powder (mixed with a stint of black pepper) - quantum tea spoon three times a day. Been on it for 10 days and something is happening, i can tell.
Enterococus faecalis (special homeopathic nozodes) - 1 injection / once a week. Under special treament from homeopath.
Beta glukan
Coenzym Q10
Brocolli broth.
Special homeopathy series of medicies
Vitamin C - 4 mg per day - will increase to 8 mg a day.
SILVER ION WATER - not started yet.
Cernilton tablets - Pollen - just started on day 2.
I am also doing streches and kegel exercies two times a day.
I shall beat the pain and in my opinion, KURKUMA, Cernilton, nozodes and Silver Ion water, shall do the trick. Antibiotics shall not in my opinion do the trick, as we can see from countless examples and fellow sufferers.
Lets heal naturally and the body will follow.
Hello fellows,
I hope you are doing fine. I had a couple of bad days - such as abdominal and even higher stomach pain (moved from left to right), so i guess it all is interconeected with non bacterial prostatitis. Has anyone ever had such pains ?
Then it all supsided to almost zero pain for 2 days and today a slight pain in the abdominal region. What a tricky disease.
I dont think it is necessary for me to take atbs as i have no bacteria in cultivation. Instead i am using the following regimen now:
KURKUMA powder (mixed with a stint of black pepper) - quantum tea spoon three times a day. Been on it for 10 days and something is happening, i can tell.
Enterococus faecalis (special homeopathic nozodes) - 1 injection / once a week. Under special treament from homeopath.
Beta glukan
Coenzym Q10
Brocolli broth.
Special homeopathy series of medicies
Vitamin C - 4 mg per day - will increase to 8 mg a day.
SILVER ION WATER - not started yet.
Cernilton tablets - Pollen - just started on day 2.
I am also doing streches and kegel exercies two times a day.
I shall beat the pain and in my opinion, KURKUMA, Cernilton, nozodes and Silver Ion water, shall do the trick. Antibiotics shall not in my opinion do the trick, as we can see from countless examples and fellow sufferers.
Lets heal naturally and the body will follow.
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